Did Boris drop another clanger?

[Splodgetastic]

Parents cannot have contact with children if they live in an area with a different tier? Pretty sure this is wrong and child contact continues...

@Splodgetastic Unless this was a late question from the press, BJ didn't say anything like that.

He told the separated dad to read the websites.

You can have contact but it would probably have to be outside I think.

It was hard to understand the waffle he was spouting. He kept saying “unfortunately”, repeated no household contact and to check the website. In reality, fortunately the website is clear on this

Here:

There are exceptions where people from different households can gather beyond the limits set out above. These exceptions are:

in a legally permitted childcare bubble (see section on childcare below for more details)
OR
for arrangements where children do not live in the same household as both their parents or guardians

www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-providing-unpaid-care/guidance-for-those-who-provide-unpaid-care-to-friends-or-family

What Boris said was spectacularly unclear. The man can barely string a sentence together and has clearly be brain damaged by the illness.

Sorry, wrong link, the irony!

www.gov.uk/guidance/local-covid-alert-level-high#childcare

I guess he didn’t want to say yes everybody can see their children in case people used it as an excuse to see their adult children.

@ChristmasCantComeSoonEnough

I guess he didn’t want to say yes everybody can see their children in case people used it as an excuse to see their adult children.

Yes it must have been that. It's so hard to say under 18s isn't it?

& ahem -under 13 for childcare...

@Fink

Does anyone know what the rules are about contact with NRP when the dc are in self-isolation (following contact with a positive case rather than with covid themselves) or quarantine (after holiday)?

I got this from the government website, but it's not at all clear to me what it means and it doesn't seem to cover self-isolation if the dc aren't the infected ones:
'If you do have symptoms of coronavirus, speak to your parents or guardians about staying in one home until you recover but both families should follow the isolation guidance for 14 days.'

DD's whole class are self-isolating following an infection of one pupil. I don't know if she's allowed to self-isolate across both parents' households or if she has to stay in one.

They stay in one household if self-isolating. You want to minimise the risk of transmitting it to people in the dad's household.

If quarantining after a holiday they can actually move houses but it should be one move until the quarantine ends.

The reason I know this was listening to the radio where a guy was quarantining who lived in a shared household. He moved in with his brother as one of his housemates got a job as a carer. He did have to complete a government form online before he moved in with his brother. He had been checked on by the police as his first address was a commercial property.

I look after my grandchildren one day a week and do the school run, and their other grandma does another day. Both of us can't do both days. We're in tier 1, medium risk. Reading that link, am I reading it right that we shouldn't?

Another Boris balls-up!

The man is incapable of clarity. The only thing he does well and reliably is drop clangers. You almost need ear defenders to protect against them every time he opens his trap.

I'm seeing my dd, she's not even under 18 but needs me.

@Curlygirl06

I look after my grandchildren one day a week and do the school run, and their other grandma does another day. Both of us can't do both days. We're in tier 1, medium risk. Reading that link, am I reading it right that we shouldn't?

If it's a regular childcare arrangement you can continue.

What they don't want you to do is change days and you are suppose to socially distance from the children's parents.

RedMarauder thank you. No chance of changing days, we all work, so good to know. And i don't kiss the parents!