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Struggling with all the arguments

12 replies

Meruem · 15/10/2020 20:10

I’ve coped with covid, lockdown etc but am finding myself increasingly stressed by all the lack of agreement from government down to individuals. Some people saying “well I’m not complying” other views that nothing less than full lockdown will work. Just watched a programme on ITV, the arguments for the economy were well set out but equally listening to the NHS staff despair was also compelling. Me personally, I can follow the rules easy enough, I wfh, no young DC, not bothered about missing socialising etc. But of course I can 100% see why lockdown for others would destroy them, mentally, economically etc. I feel like I’ve lost any sense of where I stand on everything because I can see every side. I’ve seen lots of posts where people have a firm grip on where they are in all this but is anyone else like me and completely floundering now?

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dollychopss · 15/10/2020 20:13

I am exhausted 2 young children /working full time /partner key worker /case at DS school so self isolate so I have to work full time with kids .... no help I am on the verge of crying yes I think the same about the NHS staff and the economy but everyone is suffering in their own way ... their will be mass suicides /poverty to come ...

Youandmeareluckytobeus · 15/10/2020 20:38

I'm similar to you OP in that I can deal with restrictions and was fine in lockdown as I'm very adaptable anyway, don't have young children and am not losing money.

I tend to be able to put myself in the position of others and see things from all sides too, including in other areas of life and not just Covid. It can make me indecisive. However, I do have a firm opinion on this as I seem to rise to the occasion and be able to make the decision when the circumstances are of the utmost importance.

Dumpypumpy · 15/10/2020 20:52

It’s overwhelming isn’t it. Though the extreme opinions of both sides of the arguments are really stressing me out, and i really need to cut off from social media and constantly checking my news app.

amusedtodeath1 · 15/10/2020 20:55

I'm so fed up of the arguments too OP.

I have always been right in the middle. A balance of protecting the economy and protecting the vulnerable and NHS.

I don't think lockdowns are the answer but a last resort.

I'm just so sick of hearing people refusing to even try. The same arguments over and over. It's making me feel like we're stuffed tbh. I've tried to stay positive all through this but today I'm really feeling hopeless.

Hopefully tomorrow I'll get it back.

Flowers
Dustballs · 15/10/2020 20:58

Weirdly I know very clearly what I feel about this. Normally I’m bad at making decisions and never clear about what I feel/ think.

But this government fills me with such fury I have no doubt about what I’m feeling now.

HeyMacarona · 15/10/2020 21:05

I’m the same as you OP wfh, adult DC and not bothered about socialising but totally understand why people are rebelling.

What I find even more depressing than this virus and the destruction it’s causing is the split in the country, fights, arguments and protests. I had hoped this country could heal from the split caused by the referendum but now I’m not so sure. People cannot just gracefully disagree they are absolutely vile to each other.

CrunchyCarrot · 15/10/2020 22:10

I feel your pain, OP. I have dealt well with isolation and DP working from home, but I am getting more and more stressed with all the arguments between people about conspiracies, facts, different interpretations, and now the whole should we/shouldn't we lockdown again, if so what, and so on. On and on it goes. I think that will wear me down far faster than locking me down for the entire winter!

Shinyletsbebadguys · 15/10/2020 22:45

I was like this about a month to 6 weeks ago , at the point where not only covid was unclear but the whole world seemed to be in conflict with BLM protests (rightly so I knew exactly where I stood there) , the impending BREXIT possible apocalypse / anti climax / lizard people takeover . I'm not making light it really felt like honestly there were so many views on absolutely everything and I could see why everyone had different views (in most cases ....the obviously homophobic/ racist views etc I simply discounted ) and it got to the point I almost deliberately made my perspective small. Not my interest but my perspective. I ended up putting one foot in front of the other. I wait basically and figure that the world is in a state of flux its impossible to form a permanent response.

I've sort of accepted my response and perspective can only be for right now and for what I'm dealing with in my area and in my family. In an hour new information may have come in and it will have to change but I've kind of accepted that.

I've never been like this before , I look ahead I analyse I predict the likelihood of what I think will happen. I can't for a while it's just not possible without creating insane anxiety for myself so I don't...for now.

TheKeatingFive · 15/10/2020 22:53

I very much get it OP.

I guess we had a society that (more or less) functioned and people were able to go about their business, make their living, see their friends, celebrate, enjoy themselves, have their children educated, feel relatively safe within. And now that’s fallen apart.

People’s needs are conflicting now, only some can be met and naturally we’ll all fight for what’s most important to us.

I can see every side

Yes, everyone does have a point. How we actually balance out these priorities is a total nightmare. And everyone is angry and looking for someone to blame.

Dumpypumpy · 16/10/2020 07:55

@Shinyletsbebadguys

I was like this about a month to 6 weeks ago , at the point where not only covid was unclear but the whole world seemed to be in conflict with BLM protests (rightly so I knew exactly where I stood there) , the impending BREXIT possible apocalypse / anti climax / lizard people takeover . I'm not making light it really felt like honestly there were so many views on absolutely everything and I could see why everyone had different views (in most cases ....the obviously homophobic/ racist views etc I simply discounted ) and it got to the point I almost deliberately made my perspective small. Not my interest but my perspective. I ended up putting one foot in front of the other. I wait basically and figure that the world is in a state of flux its impossible to form a permanent response.

I've sort of accepted my response and perspective can only be for right now and for what I'm dealing with in my area and in my family. In an hour new information may have come in and it will have to change but I've kind of accepted that.

I've never been like this before , I look ahead I analyse I predict the likelihood of what I think will happen. I can't for a while it's just not possible without creating insane anxiety for myself so I don't...for now.

Sounds just like me ! I do find some feelings of control by analysing the daily covid statistic for my area , I am just focusing on my area not the national picture , and I can see where we are heading with that
starfish4 · 16/10/2020 08:46

Totally understand OP. As much as I love spending time with friends, shopping, eating out, day trips I'm living well with restrictions. I just get in with it and will follow whatever restrictions come my way.

I think this comes from the fact I know five who've had it, one only cold symptoms, two still suffering months after two lost their lives to it. If these are the odds around here, I'd rather not get it and pass onto others.

frozendaisy · 16/10/2020 09:11

The arguments would be easier to listen to if only calm, informed experts were given air/media time. Because any old nut job can spout nonsense on media ideas, terrible ideas, gather momentum and then get air time.

This is why the COBRA meetings are vital as you would assume, hope, that the heath minister, education secretary and chancellor, in particular, gather information, like real information, and they all thrash it out with the PM for a balance.

We can but hope. And not assume it's all about giving contracts to mates.

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