Formed support bubble with my partner -teens want to see their GF

[Nononoandno]

Hi me and my partner live separately and both have one 17 year old with ex’s we have formed a support bubble so me my partner and both 17 year olds. Both sons can see their other parents under the rules but can both 17 year old see their girlfriends? It’s causing drama every evening 🙈

Depends where you live and what tier you're in.

Anywhere tier 1 they can, as long as it's not more than 6 people at once.

If tier 2 they have to see them outdoors.

Got this email from the Mayor of London:
"Londoners will be banned from mixing with other households indoors. This includes in pubs and restaurants. When outdoors, you must not socialise in a group larger than 6 people."

Also if you go to a place that is a higher tier regularly e.g. your partner's you have to behave like you are in that tier all the time.

I don’t no the rules but if you and your partner are allowed to mix and form a support bubble it’s going to be very hard for your children not to want to with there partners I think if the rules in your area I would allow them to see there partners I’m 27 currently back at home for a few months with my family and I’m still going and staying with my partner.

Depends where you live.
Tier one- yes, in your house (as long as total number isn't over 6)
Tier 2- yes, outdoors
Tier 3- I think no?

We are in tier 2 and have decided that we will allow 18y DD's boyfriend here. They're in an 'established' relationship of over a year so don't need to SD under the government rules.

The government haven't clarified if that's still the case under tier 2 or 3, think they were asked and never responded iirr.

So we are permitting it, even inside, at present. It would seem far too cruel to not slow them to be together for such a long time. Though this hasn't actually happened yet as we are in SI anyway.

Despite us being careful (dd is home from university as numbers were rising and she didn't want to risk being stuck there esp as it's all gone online now) and me particularly so as I'm vulnerable, I tested positive yesterday following a routine hospital swab. Dh and dd have no symptoms as yet.

So,we've actually got a fair few days before that can come to fruition anyway.

If Tier 1 then yes as long as they social distance. If Tier 2 then only outdoors whilst social distancing.

I agree with @Aragog
Established relationships no longer have to social distance, as announced at the end of September.
The government have not specified how long you have to be dating, to count as an established relationship.
And they haven’t said that couples in certain tiers now have to distance.
So my feeling is, that until they do say something, then it’s ok to see your partner still.
That’s what we’re doing with my daughter/her partner of nearly 2 years.

@Racoonworld

If Tier 1 then yes as long as they social distance. If Tier 2 then only outdoors whilst social distancing.

Do you really think teens in a relationship will socially distance?!

@ChristmasCantComeSoonEnough it's a case of ask no questions hear no lies.

@Catsmother1 the Government website - www.gov.uk/guidance/local-covid-alert-level-high#meeting-family-and-friends

and the Wakefield Express both say differently - www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/health/coronavirus/wakefield-tier-2-lockdown-your-questions-answered-about-childcare-eating-out-visiting-friends-and-more-new-restrictions-introduced-west-yorkshire-3002950

Thanks everyone .... I can’t see anywhere on the gov site about the established relationships. Only support bubbles and it doesn’t say children that are In an established Support bubble are allowed to form their own separate support bubble 😂 it’s all madness. It sounds like everyone I know that have older teens have allowed them to continue to see their girlfriends.

My Dd is legally an adult at 18, but tbh I'd have treated her the same at 17.

DD's boyfriend is in the vulnerable list so I know they're both being fairly sensible, although both are university students now with that added risk.

@Littlebeachhut

I don’t no the rules but if you and your partner are allowed to mix and form a support bubble it’s going to be very hard for your children not to want to with there partners I think if the rules in your area I would allow them to see there partners I’m 27 currently back at home for a few months with my family and I’m still going and staying with my partner.
Ffs! What reason do you have for your ignorance of the rules and laws on this?

@Youandmeareluckytobeus

Let’s be honest for a minute, it’s been a blooming catastrophe to follow the constantly changing guidance. This tier system is the first sensible and somewhat transparent idea they’ve had but there is still a lot of non committal grey area around what is/isn’t included at each level (established relationships for example).

It really irritates me when people like you get off insinuating that people who don’t understand and haven’t managed to follow this are ignorant and stupid.

I personally know Doctors, teachers, and accountants who have all struggled to understand what they are/are not allowed to do at points throughout covid and I’m SURE you’re not insinuating that these people are ignorant or stupid.

It was the governments job to make sure the rules were transparent enough for even the least educated amongst our population to follow and they have failed MISERABLY

@Littlebeachhut

I don’t no the rules but if you and your partner are allowed to mix and form a support bubble it’s going to be very hard for your children not to want to with there partners I think if the rules in your area I would allow them to see there partners I’m 27 currently back at home for a few months with my family and I’m still going and staying with my partner.

Effectively whatur saying i have looked at rules and not going to but im going to give u my opnion which will be meaningless but im doing what i want regardless of whether its allowed and so should u 🤦🏼‍♀️

*i haven't look at the rules

There’s a small shop near me being renovated it’s been going on weeks, today there are at least 8 blokes joiners electricians working together in a very small space not one of them is wearing a mask, I’m in a high Tier 2 band! All the hair, beauty reflexology appointments I’ve been to have been excellent at wearing the PPE and following social distancing between clients etc taking temp phone numbers waiting outside until they phone you for your appointment! I’ve just had a piece of furniture delivered again the blokes didn’t have any mask on and I asked them to leave it in the hall way why I stayed in the kitchen. Is anyone else seeing a difference in how men and women are behaving?? My fella is the only bloke I know being really careful and following the rules