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What are your thoughts on vaccine uptake?

18 replies

QueenofmyPrinces · 15/10/2020 07:31

I was talking to a gentleman last night, almost 70, high blood pressure, is on aspirin etc, and he says he absolutely will have the vaccine because what has he got to lose? He believe he’s in the “more at risk” category and so doesn’t want to take any chances with the virus.

Whereas a lot of the younger people who don’t really have any risk factors say they have no intention of having the vaccine which has been produced so quickly.

It’s not that they doubt the efficacy or short term safety of it, but they say as there has been no long term monitoring of it, what’s to say that 2,3,5 years down the line those who have been vaccinated will show a side effect that may have a large impact on their heath and lives.

They say that they would rather take their chances with the virus than a new vaccine that has had no long term study on.

Do you think that’s a lot of people’s attitude?

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FourPlasticRings · 15/10/2020 07:36

Yes. It's my attitude to tbh, and the government's by the look of it, given that there's no plan to vaccinate under 18s and they only intend to vaccinate vulnerable under fifties. I'm sure it'll be perfectly safe, but generally the human immune system is made of pretty stern stuff and, while we can't be certain of the long term effects of COVID, odds are the majority will be fine.

QueenofmyPrinces · 15/10/2020 07:54

I can’t say I particularly want it, but working in the NHS I can’t help but worry that we may be forced to Sad

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TeddyIsaHe · 15/10/2020 07:57

I think there will be conditions placed on things like travelling to other countries for holidays, or maybe even within the UK, that will rely on a vaccine certificate to prove you’ve had it. Which will probably force people who didn’t want it to have it.

I’m signed up for a trial, I was against the idea, but tbh I’ll do anything now to get back to normal.

Char2015 · 15/10/2020 08:49

@FourPlasticRings

Yes. It's my attitude to tbh, and the government's by the look of it, given that there's no plan to vaccinate under 18s and they only intend to vaccinate vulnerable under fifties. I'm sure it'll be perfectly safe, but generally the human immune system is made of pretty stern stuff and, while we can't be certain of the long term effects of COVID, odds are the majority will be fine.
This is not the Government's plan. It's funny how many posters seem to come up with their own plan as to who will get vaccinated and who won't.
Char2015 · 15/10/2020 08:51

@QueenofmyPrinces

I can’t say I particularly want it, but working in the NHS I can’t help but worry that we may be forced to Sad
Given how much NHS workplaces try to push us to have the flu vaccine, I can see them being more so with the covid vaccine. I wouldn't say it's a bad thing for them to do this. I think it's probably a sensible and safest thing in my opinion.
FourPlasticRings · 15/10/2020 08:53

This is not the Government's plan.
It's funny how many posters seem to come up with their own plan as to who will get vaccinated and who won't.

I'm just going by what the head of the government taskforce said. 🤷

www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-vaccine-when-uk-population-age-b791949.html%3famp

FourPlasticRings · 15/10/2020 08:53

Sigh. Bold fail.

Char2015 · 15/10/2020 08:56

[quote FourPlasticRings]This is not the Government's plan.
It's funny how many posters seem to come up with their own plan as to who will get vaccinated and who won't.

I'm just going by what the head of the government taskforce said. 🤷

www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-vaccine-when-uk-population-age-b791949.html%3famp[/quote]
Who totally forgot her own priority list she helped to put together:

www.gov.uk/government/publications/priority-groups-for-coronavirus-covid-19-vaccination-advice-from-the-jcvi-25-september-2020/jcvi-updated-interim-advice-on-priority-groups-for-covid-19-vaccination#fn:2

Newdonewhugh · 15/10/2020 08:59

I work in care. Very worried we will be forced but if that’s the case me and at least 10 of the 30 string team will leave. I will not take a vaccine for any job.

canigooutyet · 15/10/2020 09:01

I'd be eligible for the vaccine under the current criteria, I don't want it though. I'd rather another round of CV than take my chances with a rushed out vaccine.

Dawnlassie · 15/10/2020 09:06

Not eligiable. Would not take if I get offered it.

squeekums · 15/10/2020 09:06

This house won't have it,lack of long term testing and the speed are why
What will happen in a few years down the track. Will there be long term issues
Humans make vaccines, humans also make mistakes when rushed and under pressure, things get missed or overlooked.

GoldenOmber · 15/10/2020 09:15

what’s to say that 2,3,5 years down the line those who have been vaccinated will show a side effect that may have a large impact on their heath and lives

Well, that this doesn’t really happen with vaccines? Side effects are caused by vaccines doing things - your body sees the vaccine, gears up to fight it off, so if there’s going to be a side effect of some sort it’s a reaction to either the vaccine being in your body oryour body’s own immune response to that.

There seems to be this idea that when vaccines take years to develop it’s because they inject a bunch of volunteers and then spend ten years watching them like hawks to see if anybody’s arm falls off. That’s not the case.

The side effects that are harder to spot are the ones that affect say one in 200,000 people. That’s very hard to see in a trial obviously, so that’s why they continue safety monitoring after the vaccines are initially rolled out. If it looks like that is happening, they can pull the vaccine at that point.

GoldenOmber · 15/10/2020 09:19

And the standard safety testing stages are the stages that they ARE doing now, with the vaccines in development. There isn’t an extra safety stage that’s getting skipped. What’s moving faster is the bits that can move faster when you don’t need to worry about money, or getting volunteers, or volunteers getting exposed to the virus, or gearing up manufacturing.

I would not tell anyone else to get any vaccine, but it is a bit worrying that so many people have heard the vaccines are being ‘rushed’ and will be in some way unsafe and are making their decisions based on this. It isn’t what’s happening.

onedayinthefuture · 15/10/2020 09:32

To be fair I just want all this over with so happy to take the vaccine.

WiseUpJanetWeiss · 15/10/2020 10:20

There will be a small number of people who experience side effects from a vaccine, but the likelihood will be several orders of magnitude lower than the likelihood of serious side effects from the disease itself.

Given that I’m 54 and very likely to be exposed to Covid in the next few months (as are most of the rest of the population going by current trends), getting the vaccine is a no brainer. I’ll have it as soon as it’s offered.

The idea the vaccine has been rushed has been debunked many times, but the FB conspiracy theorists don’t want to listen. And vaccine side effects result from the immune response. These happen quickly after vaccination, not many years later.

WankPuffins · 15/10/2020 10:47

@Newdonewhugh

I work in care. Very worried we will be forced but if that’s the case me and at least 10 of the 30 string team will leave. I will not take a vaccine for any job.
@Newdonewhugh many of us feel the same way.
mrsknottschicken · 15/10/2020 10:55

I will take a vaccine as soon as it is offered to me. I'm 44 and not in a high risk group, but I just want this to be over. I have no concerns about safety. If you read up on the vaccines, you'll understand why.

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