Would you?

[ohdoriswheresthesalad]

We're due to have 2 family members and their 1 year old come to stay for the weekend next week - both in medium risk areas but cases below 50 per 100,000. All key workers, 2 family members have already had covid positive tests months ago.
Problem is we're a family of 4, plus them = 7.
Obviously they'll use their own towels, we have 2 bathrooms/showers so no problem there.

Would you risk them staying for the weekend as a 7?
We don't see them often and it's too far to go for the day to meet up.
Neither family are off out to the pubs or seeing lots of different people.

Your sister saying ‘kids don’t count in Scotland’ yes true, but does she also know that the majority of Scotland (entire central belt) can’t even visit each other’s houses for a cup of tea atm?

Those saying the laws don’t make sense. Some people might not think a 30mph speed limit makes sense, or tax laws make sense, some may disagree with the drink drive limit or any magnitude of other things. Where do we end up if we all just follow the laws that we agree with or fit our narrative??

Would you have them over if it only made you a six?

@Thanksitsgotpockets to be honest probably as I wouldn't feel guilty for breaking the law.

That's why I'm doubting myself @Thanksitsgotpockets as 2 adults wouldn't make a difference yet a small baby increases the risk?

No, because it’s breaking the law.

We had exactly the same situation with DD and a sleepover recently. Although we didn’t really have an issue with the concept of a sleepover (as they’re all at school together and not social distancing there I’m sure), we banned her from going as it was going to be more than 7.

It’s hard but as PP have said, if everyone just ignores the rules we’ll never get out of this.

Yes, go for it.

Would you report people for having 7 and not 6?
Just curious as I probably wouldn't unless it was blatantly a large party

OP, do you think it ok to break the law?

• yes
• no
• sometimes

It is only if you think 'sometimes' that you have anything to think about in this instance.

I wouldn't report anyone..
People's mental health must be in bits after the last seven months. In addition, I don't know who is in a support bubble, childcare bubble or has other reasons for needing exceptions. It's none of my business and I assume people are doing what is necessary to get through..

I'd rather my neighbors felt the could come to me for help, rather than fearing I'm watching their every move, ready to report them and I would hope we'd have a level of mutual respect long after this is all over.

I wouldn’t report anyone for having 7 people over either but if this pandemic’s taught us anything it’s that we can’t rely on other people to behave the same way we would!

So just because I wouldn’t do it doesn’t mean I’d trust that nobody else would.

From a Covid POV I'm not having anyone in the house (and I'm in an area like you) because I'm VERY COVID risk averse (underlying issues).

However, breaking the law wouldn't bother me, especially when it's a 1 yo tipping the numbers over. It's not like the baby. can stay home alone and it's two families. I think 6 from 6 different families is a MUCH MUCH higher risk.

But don't be bullied into it by your sister if you're not comfortable with it.

Will you all be socially distanced if they did stay? I don't know how possible that would be when all in the same house so that's what would make me say no. I can't even go in someone's house just now in Scotland never mind stay over

@ohdoriswheresthesalad

Where did Boris get the 6 number from anyway? It used to be 2 households before last week?

Not in England it didn't. Rule of 6 has been in ages and as a National Rule it's been 6 different households is ok (fucking ridiculous frankly!!)

6 is a scientific calculation lots of countries are using. (Still think 2 households makes more sense personally, but it's not just a Boris thing)

Still think 2 households makes more sense personally, but it's not just a Boris thing

Completely agree with you. There are 5 of us so basically we can’t see anyone as a family. Two households would make a lot more sense, maybe with a max number of 10 if they really wanted to put a figure on it.

In scotland its still a rule of 6 but from maximum 2 households and children under 12 dont count. At the moment in my area I could only do this outdoors, not indoors

Legality aside, even under normal circumstances it would be rude of them to pressure you into hosting if they know you're not comfortable with it.

Ohdoriswheresthesalad

Looks like I’m not the only one!

No.

A 1 year old isn't a small baby! They are a toddler who may (or may not) be picking up germs at nursery.

For what it's worth, I probably would do this. As I think England counting under 12s is silly. But a toddler is very different to a little baby.

Do you normally feel relaxed in breaking the law?
If breaking the law doesn’t bother you then why not. I’m glad that lots of society obeys the law.

It's illegal but I would in your circumstances, I think kids under 10 should be exempt as in Scotland

An MP recently tested positive and then took a 400mile train trip.

And everyone said what an idiot she was. Presumably by your reasoning it’s ok to rob a bank because other people do it.

To all those saying ‘no because it’s against the law’ - do you genuinely never break the law? ie not even one mile per hour over the speed limit?

I understand people’s other reasons for wanting to avoid all Covid risks, but the ‘law’ thing I think you can only say wholeheartedly if you have never gone over the speed limit or got a parking ticket, etc.

Send one of your DC to stay with a friend or relative. Then you'll be legal and the virus won't get you because you'll only be six.

It'll be totally different.

If your sister is applying scottish rules of kids under 12 not counting her plan is flawed because no one is allowed to meet other households indoors in Scotland, let alone stay the night!