Travelling between tiers

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My friend and I have different interpretations of the new rules so interested in the Mumsnet interpretation.

Friend lives in a tier 2 area. His interpretation is he can't meet friends indoors in a house or pub/restaurant in his area. However believes he can travel to a nearby tier 1 area and meet people in pub under rule of 6 there.

I interpreted the rules as relating to the household itself - ie if your household is in tier 2 the rules attach to you no matter where you go. His view is the rules relate to the area itself.

Whether the rules are fair or not is another question but how did you read them?

My tier 2 friend is travelling to my tier one area to stay for a few days in a hotel and I will be seeing him and I'm a bit worried. But he is in my support bubble

No. If he's a higher risk area then he has to follow those tier rules wherever he is. Otherwise every body will just move from place to place where the rules beat suit, and the virus will continue to spread at the rate it is.

As I understand it he rules relate to an area not a household. They are not stopping people travelling out of areas, although they probably advise not travelling. A week or so ago I travelled out of Scotland where we are not allowed household mixing indoors and went to London where I was able to go into my DDs house as there are different rules there.

No he’s not allowed to do that. If your in a tier 2 area you aren’t allowed to meet people inside anywhere, doesn’t matter what tier the place is in.

Does that mean Liverpudlians cannot come to Manchester to have a drink?!

@EggysMom

Does that mean Liverpudlians cannot come to Manchester to have a drink?!

Yes it means they can’t do that

But I can drive from my Tier 2 area to my place of work in a Tier 1 area and sit near to colleagues, some of which don’t practise social distancing.

The rules are that you need to adhere to the rules where you live even if you've travelled to a different location.

The only exceptions to the indoor mixing of households are for work, medical care, support bubbles and such.

Full legislation is here but it's a bit of a slog to get through page 10 is where the relevant bit starts

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/1104/pdfs/uksi202011044_en.pdf

We’ve been in local lockdown forever and basically if you travel out of area the rules of where you live still stand. I’m assuming that won’t have changed... shouldn’t be mixing with people anywhere but outside in tier 2!

Thanks @FatGirlShrinking that's exactly what I needed. There's the obvious common sense of not travelling but I don't think it's been made as clear as it could be in the communication (like everything else )

But I can drive from my Tier 2 area to my place of work in a Tier 1 area and sit near to colleagues, some of which don’t practise social distancing.

Work is essential, the pub isn't

Similar here. I'm in tier 1 but right on the border with tier 2 where all my friends and family live so I can't meet any of them indoors.

This is why the tiers won't work.
My town had very low infections when Bolton went into local lockdown with the pubs closed. Guess where lots of Bolton residents decided to travel to for a night out?
Now our numbers are very high.