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Tier 2 car sharing?

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girlicorne · 13/10/2020 01:09

We are in a tier 2 area. I am meant to be taking my son and some of his friends to an outdoor activity over half term. As I understand it indoor mixing is not allowed but outdoor is ok as long as we are less than 6 which we will be. We were all meant to be going in my car however which I assume will be banned under the new restrictions as it is ‘inside’? Thoughts? I don’t want to break the law but I don’t want to cancel if we don’t have to!

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notangelinajolie · 13/10/2020 09:09

@labellesusage

I am afraid you are breaking the rules. You can't be in a bubble with both daughters. You are mixing 3 different households and that is not allowed.

You can bubble with one person only and they must live alone.

labellesusage · 13/10/2020 09:35

I get that I'm breaking the rules but please enlighten me what I was meant to do with a daughter who can't have medication in her house. Who tried to hang herself, throw herself in front of a train and then took such a large od she was in icu
Ok I will leave her then

bintang · 13/10/2020 09:40

Ok, where is a list of the tiers then?
We have few cases, and obviously rule of six applies.

MeadowHay · 13/10/2020 09:46

People saying it's illegal, you do realise loads of health and social care staff care share to and from work? Car sharing has never been illegal, just not advised against if there are safer options. Clearly if all the people car sharing were to get on buses instead, that would be much less safe for transmission as it involve far more people getting into contact with each other and it would also be impossible for contact tracing, whereas a limited, steady group of people who share every day you can contact trace easily and stops those people coming into contact with loads of strangers twice a day on the bus. That's clearly why it would never be made illegal as the alternative for most people is worse for transmission.

As your trip is for leisure, and not a consistent group of people, it's different in the sense that you could all just not go, if it can't be arranged for people to drive their own kids there, so there's less of a reason to take on that additional risk. I would see if the kids' parents can take them there but I would drive any that would otherwise need to take public transport, for example. That's the most sensible way to balance risks.

Aessedaioftarvalon · 13/10/2020 09:53

@bintang

Ok, where is a list of the tiers then? We have few cases, and obviously rule of six applies.

The whole country is (England) is under tier one, unless moved up to 2 or 3.

You can check your restrictions here:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54373904

bintang · 13/10/2020 10:03

Thank you, according to that we're tier one.

RockingMyFiftiesNot · 13/10/2020 10:07

@Itsabeautifuldayheyhey

Of course going in your car is banned. You and your child's friends aren't from the same household are you?

Ffs, are you really that hard of understanding a simple rule like that?

Can you link to where this is stated? We have been in local lockdown for months and car sharing wasn't advised but not banned. If you are going to be so rude to people you need to be able to back it up

AlexaShutUp · 13/10/2020 10:36

labellesusage, assuming that either you or your daughter live alone/as the only adult in your household, you can bubble with her in order to provide support. You just can't (legally) be in a bubble with your other daughter as well.

I'm sorry that your dd is having so many problems with her mental health. I totally understand your need to support her.

SheffNat79 · 13/10/2020 16:22

Legally, yes you can share. However, it isn’t advised. The official government guidance is below.

Car sharing
You should try not to share a vehicle with those outside your household or support bubble. If you need to do this, try to:

share the transport with the same people each time
keep to small groups of up to 6 people at any one time
open windows for ventilation
travel side by side or behind other people, rather than facing them, where seating arrangements allow
face away from each other
consider seating arrangements to maximise distance between people in the vehicle
clean your car between journeys using standard cleaning products - make sure you clean door handles and other areas that people may touch
ask the driver and passengers to wear a face covering

Apandemicyousay · 13/10/2020 16:42

@labellesusage remember that Boris Johnson said that Cummings was doing what any parent would do....and continue to support your daughter. This must be particularly stressful time for you all.

labellesusage · 13/10/2020 16:49

[quote Apandemicyousay]@labellesusage remember that Boris Johnson said that Cummings was doing what any parent would do....and continue to support your daughter. This must be particularly stressful time for you all.[/quote]
Thank you. She was admitted into hospital yesterday for other health reasons and was told today she may need brain surgery.
So I will keep on doing what I'm doing.

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girlicorne · 13/10/2020 18:24

Thank you for the constructive comments I ll ignore the one poster who chooses to be toxic and put people down. There is really no need, I asked a valid question where I was pretty sure we wouldn’t be allowed but I wanted to check as everything I have read mentions homes, outside or pubs, cafes etc, I have seen nothing about cars. But thank you for the nice replies 😀

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Popcornriver · 13/10/2020 18:34

I would for an essential journey such as work or school if the alternative was the bus for example. If windows are open and both passengers are wearing a mask then it seems the safest option. Plus thanks to Cummings the government message seems to be 'use your own common sense'

It seems common sense that a couple of people in a short car journey with precautions is the safer option than busses with different passengers for each journey you need to take.

FuzzyPuffling · 13/10/2020 18:38

Car sharing has been a "no" for ages. So the answer to your question, OP, is "no".

RockingMyFiftiesNot · 13/10/2020 21:57

@FuzzyPuffling

Car sharing has been a "no" for ages. So the answer to your question, OP, is "no".

It hasn't been a 'no', it's been 'not advised' '

myhobbyisouting · 14/10/2020 08:40

@labellesusage it's the fact you said you are a bubble with your two daughters that had people responding that you can't be. Because you can't. Obviously you can continue to break the rules and I'm not judging you for that but it's still not a "bubble".

You can bubble with the daughter that needs you for health reasons but not the other. Luckily you'd get to see her at work which isn't the case for most.

Kynthia · 16/10/2020 21:18

It's not advised but isn't illegal. Considering children are allowed to play sports indoors together, exempt from the household restrictions and rule of six, it's hardly that risky to have two of the children in the same car on the way to and from that sports activity. Just make it as safe as you can.

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