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Schools bubble closed so ds is home for 2 weeks but....

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Dickorydockwhatthe · 10/10/2020 12:17

Does mean he has to stay in his room or just the house? Can he go for a walk to get fresh air? It's not easy keeping a 16 year old home especially as he has mental health issues 😭 Can we have visitors still? I've read the rest of us can carry on as usual work/school etc it's just so confusing.

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Frazzled2207 · 10/10/2020 12:26

it's him that has to isolate not everyone. I wouldn't be banishing him to his room no! I'm not sure the official position on visitors but I wouldn't - you can visit other places though. He definitely is not supposed to go for a walk though this IMO is a stupid rule and if/when this happens to us we will be going on isolated walks in the countryside where I know we can keep out of other people's way. Fully understand that not everyone is lucky enough to have quiet rural spots locally which is probably why it is a blanket 'no walks' rule.

Am surprised you have not been given the official advice.

3littlewords · 10/10/2020 12:28

The garden is the furthest hes meant to go unfortunately

Revengeofthepangolins · 10/10/2020 12:29

I am trying to understand if being sent home from school is the same as being told to isolate as a contact by Track and Trace - have you had contact with the latter, or just school?

The government page says you don't have to isolate unless told to do so by T and T, at which point the new laws apply, but I wonder if PHE have deputised this role to schools, such that being sent home by them has the same status

TheQueef · 10/10/2020 12:31

He doesn't have to isolate unless he shows symptoms?

Frazzled2207 · 10/10/2020 12:33

@Revengeofthepangolins
I think you're possibly right in that being informed by T&T is the LAW whereas otherwise it's guidance but it basically amounts to the same thing.

Slightlybrwnbanana · 10/10/2020 12:33

Thequeef how can that possibly be true?

TheQueef · 10/10/2020 12:35

It's only his bubble has burst so he can't go to school not prolonged contact with a +.

Yellowmellow2 · 10/10/2020 12:35

You should’ve had the letter from the school which is from Public Health England. He has to isolate, ie, stay in, no contact with others etc. The rest of the household doesn’t unless they develop symptoms.

beachdays123 · 10/10/2020 12:43

@Revengeofthepangolins

I am trying to understand if being sent home from school is the same as being told to isolate as a contact by Track and Trace - have you had contact with the latter, or just school?

The government page says you don't have to isolate unless told to do so by T and T, at which point the new laws apply, but I wonder if PHE have deputised this role to schools, such that being sent home by them has the same status

Yes I was wondering this exact thing. DS been sent home from school with a letter saying to stay at home for 14 days, badly worded I think as stay at home could mean stay inside and isolate, or just don’t come in to school. Other thing was the date they gave to isolate till was over 2 weeks from his last contact with this person so more than he needs to isolate for, makes a difference whether it’s legally enforced or not so I was wondering this.
WhyAreWeHardOfThinking · 10/10/2020 12:43

When a child has to isolate due to a bubble bursting they have to stay at home for the length of isolation. They cannot leave the house as they have been in contact with a positive case.

The amount of kids we have seen out and about whilst their bubble has burst is ridiculous. Here in Manchester the cases are crazy and parents are still letting their kids go to the skate park with their friends despite us sending letters etc that once we are told to isolate then by PHE they cannot leave the house.

Airplanes · 10/10/2020 12:49

But when my daughter's bubble burst siblings of those in her bubble could continue to attend school so it's not the complete isolation of a household with a positive case

RedskyAtnight · 10/10/2020 12:56

Officially he has to self-isolate so should have no contact with household members (which my 16 would think was brilliant for 2 weeks!). Everyone else can have visitors as long as they don't come in contact with him. And yes, he's confined to house and garden so can't go out for a walk.

Schools usually ask students to self isolate on the advise of DfE and PHE (at least our school does) so I would say this is as "official" as Test and Trace, just a different route.

Sleepyblueocean · 10/10/2020 13:00

People were originally allowed to leave the house for exercise (even with symptoms) but that got stopped presumably because some can't be trusted to stay away from others.

diamondpony80 · 10/10/2020 13:00

My 16 year old is home self isolating at the moment. He's only allowed out into the garden but isn't confined to his room or anything. He did a happy dance on the day he was sent home from school, but he's well sick of it now and can't wait to go back!

TW2013 · 10/10/2020 13:08

The school talk to PHE they then decide whether the whole bubble need to isolate or just close contacts. If for example the bubble was a whole year 7 group of 300 but all the lessons were in the same classes and they would only have encountered the infected person in the lunch hall or on the way in or out of school because they are in a different year 7 class then they might not all need to isolate. The school will discuss with PHE what the procedures are in place and PHE will decide whether the whole year/ whole class/ just close contacts need to isolate. If the school has said to isolate then he needs to isolate at home.

CKBJ · 10/10/2020 13:08

As others have said it’s the child from the burst bubble that has to isolate at home. They are not allowed to leave the house (or garden if you’re fortunate to have one). It doesn’t matter if the child doesn’t have symptoms they still need to isolate for 14days. If they develop symptoms they require a test and rest of household must isolate.

NerrSnerr · 10/10/2020 13:10

@TheQueef if that was the case they'd just send the person who tested positive home, deep clean and gave everyone back in. He needs to self isolate for 2 weeks, meaning he can't go out and see anyone who isn't from his household.

TheQueef · 10/10/2020 13:15

[quote NerrSnerr]@TheQueef if that was the case they'd just send the person who tested positive home, deep clean and gave everyone back in. He needs to self isolate for 2 weeks, meaning he can't go out and see anyone who isn't from his household.[/quote]
Blimey.
My neighbour let her teen out because she didn't get PHE letter or T&T.
I wonder if it's widely misunderstood?

Sleepyblueocean · 10/10/2020 13:19

There are some cases where whole schools or parts of schools have shut for 2 weeks but not all of those at home have had to self isolate. It can be caused by staffing issues so more likely in smaller schools/special schools.

StealthPolarBear · 10/10/2020 13:21

@Airplanes

But when my daughter's bubble burst siblings of those in her bubble could continue to attend school so it's not the complete isolation of a household with a positive case
That doesnt make sense. Positive case = whole household isolates Contact of case who has no symptoms =individual should isolate, their household does not have to. Obviously depending on age of child household may decide its impossible for (Eg) a four year old to stay away from their household and therefore choose to isolate as a household instead
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Dickorydockwhatthe · 10/10/2020 13:36

The confirmed case is in ds year, have no idea if ds has been in contact with him or not he doesn't think so if its the person's he's thinking. It doesn't make sense we carry on as normal especially his brother who is in year 7

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Dickorydockwhatthe · 10/10/2020 13:37

My sil wants to pop over but not sure if she can now 😑

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Aragog · 10/10/2020 23:19

Self isolation rules, for positive contact is:

Person with contact isolates in home and garden
Rest of household continues as normal
No visitors to the house where SI person lives
14 days SI from last contact generally

Aragog · 10/10/2020 23:20

Even of the person SI isn't able to isolate from test of their household, rest of household still doesn't officially have to isolate either.

neveradullmoment99 · 10/10/2020 23:41

Its a joke, seriously.
If you child has symptoms though, the whole family has to isolate Im sure.

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