Why is the North of England and Glasgow worse than London?

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I think this thing travels north, so hopefully London is doing better than us up here as its maybe swept through London and is wrecking havoc up here now.

Or is that too simplistic?

What about St Mary’s in Twickenham www.stmarys.ac.uk/home.aspx
There is also the American uni in Richmond itself and there is certainly one Kingston uni hall of residence in Hampton Wick.
Richmond does have pockets of deprivation like all areas.
However as I said before on another thread there has been an awful lot of socialising by the young especially in the run up to students going back to uni

Apparently infection rates for Richmond and some other London areas are being skewed by students who are at university in other parts of the country, but who are being counted as a statistic for their home address. See this article: www.standard.co.uk/news/health/london-covid-stats-skewed-university-students-a4567441.html

Agree with others London demo graph is odd. Much less common than other cities to have family close by or living with you. Plus we were hit hard early on so I think compliance is still high in relative terms.

Londoners definitely are sticking to their "villages" and it is easy to do so. I can walk to my high st in 10 mins and go to 2 x large ish supermarkets, a shopping centre, bars and night club (obvs not now!) Gym, toddler groups etc. There's really nothing I need to leave my area for (except Ikea!)

@Bunkumum Plenty of students at St Mary's in Twickenham and just over border in Roehampton too.

Glasgow has many people living in poverty, one of the highest rates of obesity in the country and low vitamin d levels. It’s a perfect storm.

You won’t hear Nicola sturgeon telling people to take vitamin d or lose a little weight though.

In our town, we had barely any cases first time around when London was badly hit.

I saw a local councillor for Richmond saying that about students originally from Richmond being counted as positive infections there even though they have caught it at university. Don't know if it's true though.

Totally anecdotal but it seems like many people where I live (commuter town in South East) are still working from home whereas friends in the North seem to be more likely to travel into the workplace. Cases in my town and the other main commuter town nearby are now by far the highest in my county so travelling into the workplace could well be a factor in increasing transmission rates. We are not student towns.

Meanwhile, there are a 'few' of us in the middle - in this country's second largest city - who rarely get a mention on here or in the midia. The North and South debate is so divisive that it excludes The Midlands and my home city of around a million people alone!

Yet back in March, like London, Birmingham was hit hard (our local NHS Trust) had the largest number of CV admissions/deaths in the country at one point. We're on local restrictions now with rising numbers. Wider Midlands places like Leicester and Nottingham do not fall neatly into north or south either. The first has been in local lockdown forever and the second has a high number of cases now.

@newstart1234

The numbers are higher in the north for now, give it time and it’ll be everywhere again. I don’t think there is anything near herd immunity anywhere in London or elsewhere.

Virus aside, I thought all cities were collections of ‘villages’. I live in a city outside the U.K. and have not been to the city centre for months. My family live in the north east of England and experience the same.

It's also over 6 months since March and no guarantee immunity lasts long. Look where Madrid are now. They were battered by it in Feb and March.