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Clinically extremely vulnerable...have these people been forgotten?

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ForthPlace · 08/10/2020 08:48

As cases rise, surely these people are at as much, if not more risk than they were during the first rise in cases.

Locally cases were low earlier in the year, yet the ECV were protected and supported. Cases are much higher here now, yet ECV have to continue with their lives. Aren't they more at risk now than they were?

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OpheliasCrayon · 08/10/2020 08:56

@ForthPlace

As cases rise, surely these people are at as much, if not more risk than they were during the first rise in cases.

Locally cases were low earlier in the year, yet the ECV were protected and supported. Cases are much higher here now, yet ECV have to continue with their lives. Aren't they more at risk now than they were?

Pretty sure I'm still at risk if not more so as I'm taking more immunosuppressants than I was at the start and they have effected my immunity (previous ones didn't )

I do choose to work and not shield and that's my choice. Whatever people shielding want to do is go to them and I respect that.

However I am slightly concerned that no one has advised me that I need to be taking more care due to the new drugs. And that I've been told to just carry on taking them as normal and go to work. And no one even seems to take into account that I'm actually now more at risk. I just seem to have been forgotten now there's a second wave.

No I wouldn't act differently but the fact is that that's my choice and I've not been contacted about any risk now. So I assume that other people who are shielding (and who may wish to take more precautions) haven't been contacted either !

Whilst I do wish to continue to make my own choices - I would like to at least think that I'm given the relevant info to make them!

loutypips · 08/10/2020 08:59

Yes they are at more risk, especially as all children are expected in school! My DD could potentially bring it home and my poor DM, who we live with is ECV. If she gets it, it will only be her that brings it home.
Poor child is worried that she's going to kill her nanny.

Azerothi · 08/10/2020 09:00

I am clinically extremely vulnerable, in the highest category, and I definitely haven't been forgotten. I get letters and phone calls, not every week but most weeks from my hospital 'team' and the council or whoever deals with the shielding business.

OpheliasCrayon · 08/10/2020 09:01

@Azerothi

I am clinically extremely vulnerable, in the highest category, and I definitely haven't been forgotten. I get letters and phone calls, not every week but most weeks from my hospital 'team' and the council or whoever deals with the shielding business.
So am I and at first I got almost daily contact. Now nothing and I'm taking MORE drugs
ForthPlace · 08/10/2020 09:21

I am clinically extremely vulnerable, in the highest category, and I definitely haven't been forgotten. I get letters and phone calls, not every week but most weeks from my hospital 'team' and the council or whoever deals with the shielding business

Interesting, my DP is too and was well supported initially, with NHS calls, LA support, GP contact but absolutely nothing since the 1st of August. Back working with schools!

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BeyondsConstantBangingHeadache · 08/10/2020 09:28

No official advice here - and I'm ECV in a local lockdown area too

I'm on additional meds atm and the specialist did warn me I'd be at extra risk now. She was noticeably relieved when I told her I was shielding again anyway.

SistemaAddict · 08/10/2020 09:33

I feel totally forgotten about. College have told me I'm expected to attend but that means getting the bus at rush hour then sitting in a classroom with 10 other students for hours before heading back on the bus in an area that collectively has the highest rates in the UK. My dc are in bubbles of 350+ each at secondary and 30+ at primary. I've already had two lots of antibiotics and steroids in September. Now we are self isolating as dd has a fever. I am really pissed off that the shielded are expected to just get on with things and to hell with the consequences. We had a handful of cases in March and now we have 215/100,000 with neighbouring areas much higher.

BatSegundo · 08/10/2020 10:06

So long as hospitals are not in danger of being overwhelmed then we will continue to be 'forgotten'. It was never about individual risk, it was about not clogging up beds with people who were suspected to need longer/more intensive treatment. If hospitals start to get very busy then we may be 'remembered'.

I'm not saying that individual clinicians or, indeed politicians, don't care on a human level, BTW. It's just that whatever decisions are taken by the government are taken on the basis of what's best for the population not the individual.

OpheliasCrayon · 08/10/2020 12:59

@ForthPlace

I am clinically extremely vulnerable, in the highest category, and I definitely haven't been forgotten. I get letters and phone calls, not every week but most weeks from my hospital 'team' and the council or whoever deals with the shielding business

Interesting, my DP is too and was well supported initially, with NHS calls, LA support, GP contact but absolutely nothing since the 1st of August. Back working with schools!

Exactly the same. Literally heard nothing since. It doesn't bother me as I'm not sheilding and will continue to work throughout even if it's reinstated but, it worries me because people who are at risk aren't being given the right info, or any info to make their own personal choice. It's very concerning
WorkingItOutAsIGo · 08/10/2020 13:01

I personally am continuing to shield and am lucky that I can and have the resources to do so. I feel much lonelier now though.

amicissimma · 08/10/2020 13:06

As I hear discussion about the clinically extremely vulnerable every time I turn on a TV or radio news program, read about them in every newspaper I pick up and on mainstream social media, including MN, I would say, no, not only have they not been forgotten, but they are very much being kept in the public eye.

The best approach to protection, while much discussed, does not seem particularly clear, however.

Dreamersandwishers · 08/10/2020 13:11

In Scotland here. I got a letter the other week telling me that I didn’t have to shield but advising I continue to take care.
Got 3 texts , one of which had a link to the neighbourhood stats so I could see which local areas are ‘hot’.
I am happy with that level.

Understandingnotignorance · 08/10/2020 14:03

Not forgotten but ignored.

ForthPlace · 08/10/2020 16:55

As I hear discussion about the clinically extremely vulnerable every time I turn on a TV or radio news program, read about them in every newspaper I pick up and on mainstream social media, including MN, I would say, no, not only have they not been forgotten, but they are very much being kept in the public eye

Really? ...so just no action to support them?

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herecomesthsun · 08/10/2020 17:09

Presumably, what is in the news is the Great Barrington proclamation that ECV people should be shut away somewhere & everyone else snap back to normal? About which a fair number of senior doctors have a lot of reservations?

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