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Can I ask a really stupid question about quarantining post holiday?

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LivinLaVidaLoki · 02/10/2020 19:38

I've a friend who is currently on holiday in the canaries, due back in a couple of days.
The canaries is currently on the quarantine list so my understanding is that she will have to quarantine when she gets back. Particularly as she works in a care home.

However she is under the impression she doesn't need to quarantine if she can get a negative test when she gets home.

This isn't a holiday bashing thread, I have been on holiday to visit my family in Greece this year. We had a contingency plan should we need to quarantine on return to enable us to do so, and limited contact as far as we could when we got back.

However my friend doing this makes me uncomfortable. Am I just being ridiculous? Feel free to tell me I am if I am.

Also ethics aside, I also don't want her to get hit with a huge fine.

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TippledPink · 02/10/2020 19:41

You have to quarantine even with a negative test as she may not show as positive until up to 14 days after infection (hence a 14 day quarantine).

Lou98 · 02/10/2020 19:42

I'm not 100% sure and I'm sure someone will come along to correct me if I'm wrong but my understanding is the negative test or not they still need to quarantine for 2 weeks as the virus has a 2 week incubation period so even if she doesn't test positive the day she comes home she might on say day 12 or so just as an example.

As you say, if going on holiday just now there should be plans in place should you have to quarantine when coming back. What is she going to do if the test comes back positive? (Also not holiday bashing, enjoyed a lovely holiday to Turkey last month but also fully had plans in place should they have been added to the quarantine list)

intheenddoesitreallymatter · 02/10/2020 19:43

Another stupid question - if you're quarantining can you walk your dog? That one's been bugging me - what do you do if you have a dog and live in a flat?

AldiAisleofCrap · 02/10/2020 19:44

No , you ask a friend or family member to walk your dog or pay someone too.

PeaceAndHarmoneeee · 02/10/2020 19:46

I recently came back from a country that required quarantine on arrival.

You have to quarantine 14 days, no leaving house or garden at all. You cannot get out of this by having a negative test as you may be incubating the virus and that won't show up on a test.

quickkimchi · 02/10/2020 19:46

intheend dog walking isn't allowed (which I only know because I have dogs and have to quarantine): www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-advice-for-people-with-animals

dementedpixie · 02/10/2020 19:46

She is wrong. Due to the incubation period she needs to isolate for 14 days regardless of a negative test at the start

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LivinLaVidaLoki · 02/10/2020 19:50

Thanks all. I thought she still had to quarantine. She's adamant she can get a negative test and then go back to work.

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intheenddoesitreallymatter · 02/10/2020 19:51

[quote quickkimchi]intheend dog walking isn't allowed (which I only know because I have dogs and have to quarantine): www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-advice-for-people-with-animals[/quote]
Thanks so much for that! I hadn't even thought about the dog.

I am going to ring around tonight to beg some favours in case we do have to quarantine! Two weeks worth of favours!

stgrssl · 02/10/2020 19:52

She needs to isolate and I would speaking to her employer if she doesn't. I have relatives in care homes and protecting them from Covid should come first

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LivinLaVidaLoki · 02/10/2020 19:59

@stgrssl I know. It makes me really uncomfortable. Surely any care provider would insist she not come back to work for that 2 weeks.

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notimagain · 02/10/2020 20:00

Official UK gov guidance is here:

www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-how-to-self-isolate-when-you-travel-to-the-uk/coronavirus-covid-19-how-to-self-isolate-when-you-travel-to-the-uk

ATM having a negative test doesn't release you from the 14 day requirement.

Dog walking gets a specific mention as not being allowed:

"In England, you must only exercise within your home or garden. You cannot leave your home to walk your dog"

MJMG2015 · 02/10/2020 20:04

[quote LivinLaVidaLoki]@stgrssl I know. It makes me really uncomfortable. Surely any care provider would insist she not come back to work for that 2 weeks.[/quote]
Show her the Govt. website. It's very clear that she needs to isolate.

A lot of care staff employees weren't great before Covid, I wouldn't be at all surprised if some of them aren't insisting on things like this.

(Others are amazing!! Just a shame they're not all goid!)

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LivinLaVidaLoki · 02/10/2020 20:30

@MJMG2015
I would hope they would have learned some lessons.
I have a brother in a care home and the idea that someone like her could put him at risk....I'm just speechless.
Especially as she is constantly on social media in her ppe and mask telling everyone to stick to the rules as people like her on the frontline have seen how terrible this virus is....
And now she is potentially putting all these people at risk.

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LivinLaVidaLoki · 03/10/2020 07:46

Thinking about this, if she does just go back to work and they allow it, if heaven forbid the worse happens are they not liable?

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newmumwithquestions · 03/10/2020 08:01

It’s totally selfish of her. The fact that she works in a care home is horrific. Does she not care about her patients?

I was sad that we lost our (booked before Covid-19 was around) holiday to the Canaries. But we decided that we couldn’t quarantine for 2 weeks so we didn’t go.

I don’t know about liability. But logically yes if they knowingly allow her to break quarantine rules then it sounds like someone should have a case against them if anything happened.

tcjotm · 03/10/2020 08:33

[quote LivinLaVidaLoki]@MJMG2015
I would hope they would have learned some lessons.
I have a brother in a care home and the idea that someone like her could put him at risk....I'm just speechless.
Especially as she is constantly on social media in her ppe and mask telling everyone to stick to the rules as people like her on the frontline have seen how terrible this virus is....
And now she is potentially putting all these people at risk.[/quote]
She’s a hypocrite and being really thick. Has it not occurred to her that she could be infected on the last day? It’s very worrying that someone with her limited thinking is going to be looking after such vulnerable people.

ceeveebee · 03/10/2020 08:40

I think there was a change to the rules so that if an employer knowingly let an employee come to work when they should be self-isolating they could have a big fine....

Ithoughthiswasit · 03/10/2020 08:47

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ceeveebee · 03/10/2020 08:51

@ceeveebee

I think there was a change to the rules so that if an employer knowingly let an employee come to work when they should be self-isolating they could have a big fine....

Ah no I’m wrong about that - that doesn’t apply to a post-holiday quarantine situation, only applies when they have tested positive or been told to self isolate by track and trace.

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