Are there any stats for teacher infections?

[notevenat20]

The risk of schools is often discussed here but I was wondering if there are any relevant facts. If we knew the percentage of school teachers who have been infected since term started relative to non-teachers that could be really informative.

Are such stats available?

Stats do exist for 9 March and 25 May 2020 www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/causesofdeath/bulletins/coronaviruscovid19relateddeathsbyoccupationenglandandwales/deathsregisteredbetween9marchand25may2020#women-and-deaths-involving-covid-19-by-occupation but most schools were shut then.

The government is never going to release this information. It's not in their interest. The only think i can add is that at the place i work out 6 members of staff are off and the whole of the infants are closed due to the virus.

The government is never going to release this information.

The data was there for March to May linked in my question. I just want something up to date.

I think I remember reading that the dfe weren't going to release information on outbreaks in schools. I've certainly looked and not been able to find any (other than the weekly summary in the PHE report, but that doesn't give information on number of cases per school or who was affected).

@notevenat20

The government is never going to release this information.

The data was there for March to May linked in my question. I just want something up to date.

March and may was released because it showed little evidence of teachers getting covid. The fact that schools were not fully open and that only those in hospital got tests

4 teachers in one school in my la
1 in another school

So 5 i think of the 11 cases
45%

We’ll probably never get to see those stats. Two of my school colleagues were in hospital in March and we know children in their classes had it, but no one includes them in their statistics. This cover up has been going on for months now.

High 20s out of over 70 staff at my DH's school! They reckon it's not being passed round school, that all cases are from outside transmission 🤷‍♀️

I was thinking exactly this about university staff. With all of the news about 100s of students at several universities being required to isolate due to cluster breakouts I’m assuming staff who have been required to do face to face stuff have been infected. Teaching and university unions may be collecting what data they are able to ?

I doubt we’ll ever see these as official stats but considering my primary school has already had 2 teachers, 2 teaching assistants and 1 member of office staff test positive in the first 4 weeks alone then I suspect it will be pretty high... It really feels like no one cares if school staff catch the virus anymore. We are in a local lockdown area, our school’s had multiple virus cases (with all of Key stage 2 closed at one point) yet we still open as normal with teachers are expected to work with no PPE. I have no idea how we are still classed as Covid secure. Much as I love my job normally, this utter disregard for the health and safety of school staff is really starting to frustrate.

The DfE have changed the information schools are asked to submit daily - at that time they had to inform number of staff off for covid reasons, they now only have to state number of staff off - regardless of reason and hence why they are saying they do not know.

@HeronLanyon I work at a university where we’re doing face to face teaching. Because we can do blended learning unlike high schools it’s a different ball game. We’ve got 1m distancing in teaching sessions, face coverings/shields and groups of 15. It feels incredibly safe. There is no way we should close, and I feel very proud of my institution.

At my school (2 form intake primary, in a semi rural area supposedly of 'low infection rate', so not on anyone's radar!) we have 4 teachers and 5 support staff currently out with positive tests, three more isolating whilst waiting for results, and two year group bubbles at home isolating, both with 3 children testing positive so far. But yeah...no issues here 🤦‍♀️

I feel very proud of my school too @holyhead. We stayed open to key workers and vulnerable kids throughout the first lockdown and handed out food parcels to all our families that needed one. We are also open in our new local lockdown but now it doesn’t feel safe because our infection rate is now the highest it’s ever been, we have some of the worst access to testing in the country, we have class sizes of 30 with young children who can’t social distance (who are still getting the virus), we have no PPE and we have five colleagues already who’ve succumbed. When your working in conditions like these, with half your school shut, you can still question whether the rest of your school is Covid secure / safe without it meaning that you don’t take pride in your work.

At my sons secondary school, there are 12 staff self isolating, of which 5 are positive. Years 8, 9,10, 11, and 12 have been off for 2 weeks self isolating due to around 6 positive cases spread across the bubbles. Plus a number of children who travelled on the same school bus as some of the positive cases.

In my other sons primary, 3 staff were tested positive after 2 reception children tested positive plus a lunchtime supervisor.

Were in a high risk area and its a similar story in other local school according to friends whose children go to other schools.

Anecdotal, yes, but it must be similar in other high risk areas?

@GingerandTilly I’m sorry I absolutely wasn’t implying that schools took no pride in their work, I meant more I was simply proud of the university for making some face to face possible in a way that feels so safe when some universities just went totally online only.

High schools are in an impossible situation, and I think the fact that you took my comment as having an ‘edge’ shows what a sensitive situation we’re in.

My school is in a low transmission area. We currently have 4 staff tested positive, 22 isolating (some waiting for test results but I don't know how many) and about 40% of the students isolating because of 11 confirmed test results in the student population (across 5 year groups. Years 8 and 12 are currently unaffected but 12s are in a bubble with 13s so a lot of those are isolating)

I've just got back from 2 weeks isolation and was told yesterday that another member of my form has tested positive but I don't have to isolate as I've not been near her.

The rest of my form have though, and I've been near them.

I predict we'll be fully closed before half term simply because of staff absence

@holyhead apologies x

There are no accurate reliable stats

As far as I know, no staff off from my two-form-entry primary due to CV, although I know of one TA currently at home awaiting a result for her daughter. We are in an area with something like 33 in 100,000 cases, so poised for a potential local lockdown. And the University is due back in a couple of weeks, so that could well push us over the edge 😒

But at my school... nothing as yet.