Biggest ever rise in cases in the UK

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Johnson, Vallance and Whitty will apparently be giving a press conference tomorrow at some point.

Reported in the FT, and Sky

It's not the biggest rise. That happened much earlier in the year when we weren't testing.

This is misleading.

It’s the biggest rise since mass testing began.

We certainly had bigger rises before.

But how can you know it is the biggest rise when we weren't testing anywhere near as many people earlier in the year.

Don't shoot the messenger. It's just the headlines

It’s unhelpful to post threads like this without the caveat that we weren’t testing as much before which I’m sure appears in those articles.

Do you believe that OP? Why do you think there were 1000+ deaths a day in April and less than 100 today, if there is more cases today?

A large rise in cases doesn't tell us much unless we know the number of tests. Unfortunately there is also a large rise in hospitalisations in the NW. It does seem the North is in a second wave sadly. Presumably that means it is only a matter of time before we all are.

I think some of the increase today could be due to lags over the last few days which looked unfeasibly low. Hopefully.

This is what really worries me. It's on a log scale so a straight line means hospitalisations are doubling which means exponential growth.

Last couple of days were very low

Today was catch up.

Let's see in a few days time.

We do need the updates restarted on a weekly basis imo.

Too many people still don't get it.

Your right it was the headlines although it did point out that testing wasn’t in place so not a fair comparison.

either way, its still a lot of new cases day by day. The deaths usually catch up with a week or two lag

covid is going nowhere

Johnson, Vallance and Whitty will apparently be giving a press conference tomorrow at some point.

Based on Whiity and Valance's last scare fest, they just need Cummings to complete the 4 Horsemen.

It's definitely not good but the graph comparing current recorded cases with recorded cases in March / April is misleading, as several others have noted.

Incredible how Western media is completely repressing news how China, with 20% of the world’s population, has had the virus contained for months. Makes our incompetent clowns look bad.

Incredible how Western media is completely repressing news how China, with 20% of the world’s population, has had the virus contained for months

I don’t think they are, did you see photos of a pool party in Wuhan a few weeks ago? “Things are still the same” just isn’t very newsworthy.

And do you really think people here would have accepted the even more draconian measures imposed by China? No informal home self isolation, but getting taken to a treatment centre for 2 weeks?

So the first page of this thread is 'yeah it's not good, but...' 🙄

OP this is all explained clearly in the twitter thread below by Dr Raghib Ali
(Senior Clinical Research Associate, MRC Epidemiology Unit, University of Cambridge. Consultant Physician in Acute Medicine, Oxford University Hospitals NHS Trust.)
mobile.twitter.com/drraghibali/status/1311060791009906688

@CoffeeandCroissant

Thanks for the link his explanation is reassuring but also confirms that caution is very much needed.

@Cam77

Incredible how Western media is completely repressing news how China, with 20% of the world’s population, has had the virus contained for months. Makes our incompetent clowns look bad.

.... No Western country would accept the draconian measures the Chinese dictatorship used on its people If you think your lockdown was tough .....

and if that same "efficient" regime hadn't tried to cover up the original outbreak,
then this virus would not have got loose much outside China anyway
And would not have killed 1 million+ people already

So the Chinese dictatorship is not something to be admired ... or copied

No Western country would accept the draconian measures the Chinese dictatorship used on its people

This is true but see S. Korea too.

Hospital admissions in the last 2 months
Source: Office National statistics:

Shows the number of patients admitted in previous 24 hours for the first time with COVID-19 plus the number of patients diagnosed in hospital in previous 24 hours where the test was within 48 hours of admission plus the number of patients diagnosed in hospital in previous 24 hours where the test was 3-7 days after admission (lagged by 5 days)

Note that the last 5 days of this time series will always be an underestimate as they do not include diagnosed patients where the test was taken within 3-7 days of admission as that data element is not yet available. These figures will be revised as the data becomes available.