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Why are we okay with students being locked up in their dorms?

651 replies

JKRowlingIsMyQueen · 28/09/2020 19:05

I just heard about the students in Manchester who are not allowed to leave their dorms.

Why on earth is this allowed to happen? So the rest of us who are not students are allowed to get pissed in a pub, get on a plane and travel abroad and back etc., but if you are a student you are not allowed to LEAVE your dorms?

What science are these kind of rules following? The science of Boris needing more ammo to blame young people for spreading the virus?

I'm losing hope.

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EveryPlanetHasAYorkshire · 28/09/2020 21:20

Can they not break a window and get out that way? Not really an option if you are on a higher floor though.

randomer · 28/09/2020 21:20

Right 2 things before I go

  1. Radio Manchester is a source of fair information
  1. I will be available to visit anybody who needs help in Manchester.
madastrees · 28/09/2020 21:20

@jumpingkangeroo I take it that you have not been an undergrad on a campus university then....

Rebelwithallthecause · 28/09/2020 21:21

I’m
Not a student or have student ages children and I can’t believe this is happening

Ellsbells12 · 28/09/2020 21:22

I am disgusted at this government and sturgeon at doing this poor kids

Jumpingkangeroo · 28/09/2020 21:22

[quote madastrees]@jumpingkangeroo I take it that you have not been an undergrad on a campus university then....[/quote]
I take it that you have no experience with a suicidal student then...

HesterShaw1 · 28/09/2020 21:22

And you seem unusually obsessed with "raves".

My DP's student daughter (19) barely knows what a rave is. She a d her mates mostly study and drink cups of tea.

"Raves" is not a synonym for "socialising".

Jumpingkangeroo · 28/09/2020 21:23

@DominaShantotto

Uni mental health services in my experience (as a student with diagnosed mental health problems) are dire and only have "have you contacted your GP" and "have you tried mindfulness" as responses.

I've been in contact with ours over summer because I'm getting crippling panic attacks - every single time I've had to prod and remind and push them to check out things they've promised to check up on. I'm a fairly superficially (riddled with anxiety but hide it well) confident older lady - not a new to the place 18 year old who would be much more likely to just assume they'd been forgotten about and let it slide.

This, exactly this!
Tatapie · 28/09/2020 21:23

I'm not ok with this, I'm incensed.
You should only self isolate if you've been in prolonged contact with a confirmed case. This has got to be illegal surely?
I hope to God unis get a grip before there are serious consequences from a students mental health crisis as a result of being incarcerated.

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 28/09/2020 21:23

@randomer

Right 2 things before I go
  1. Radio Manchester is a source of fair information
  1. I will be available to visit anybody who needs help in Manchester.
Thats very kind of you randomer
DonnaDonna01 · 28/09/2020 21:24

@cantkeepawayforever closing a school and pupils and teachers going home to their homes and families is completely different to the students situation, if you accept it or not.
Again some students and parents had no alternative but to return to uni due to financial reasons, most were not offered online learning has an option. I think parents did expect positive cases and flat lockdowns but not whole blocks and to have the students freedoms taken away; not to mention leaving them short of food and chaining fire escapes. If you predicated this would happen I can’t understand how you let you DS return.

Jumpingkangeroo · 28/09/2020 21:24

@randomer thank you Flowers

thecatsatonthewall · 28/09/2020 21:24

They - and we - should have predicted the consequences. But since the consequences are here, the shutting down of halls of residence to stop the spread of infection IS a defensible decision, as shutting down a school with many cases is

The Govt and Unis were told and ignored this.

Apples and Oranges - Schools aren't shut down with the pupils still in them, the students in halls should be allowed home to self isolate, same as anyone else who tests positive or who has been in close contact with someone who is.

Locking up fire escapes and threatening to withdraw the course is evil... have we all forgotten Grenfell?

mumsneedwine · 28/09/2020 21:26

Any student calling it a rave is not a teenager. They don't know what that is. Language of older people.
Someone mentioned they'd all been out clubbing. Where ? They are closed ????
If I was a Uni I'd do what sensible ones are. Test on arrival. Test weekly. Do a rota for online teaching.
I mean, I spend every day with 1,800 people teaching face to face so it must be safe.

user1487194234 · 28/09/2020 21:27

If either of mine are subject to ANY sanctions we will be in the Court of session before you can say Judicial review

madastrees · 28/09/2020 21:27

@jumpingkangaroo I don't think your post was helpful. I said that students with mh problems should be able to seek help. But you should listen to what the other students are saying too. What would you do in the university's shoes?

hester - the students themselves are describing the parties as raves.

I am out now - I dont' think this thread is helping anyone.

Frouby · 28/09/2020 21:27

I said a few weeks ago they would encourage students to go back, purely because it's easier to control a couple of million of young people in uni accommodation rather than in private homes.

I started uni today as a mature student, I feel so sorry for the younger students who have moved for this. But luckily most are in private accommodation rather than halls, tho a few are. Tbf, most are pretty young (it's a foundation year course) but being fairly sensible. We still have 1 f2f lesson a week so far.

JamieLeeCurtains · 28/09/2020 21:28

There have not been freshers' parties and raves everywhere.

That really is a load of cobblers, reinforced by press photos that are not even of students, and many taken last year. Probably planted by Cummings's bloody spin machine.

Students have socialised in the communal areas of their halls, that were open. They used to be called common rooms.

Now they're accused of recreating Glasto around a pool table.

Jumpingkangeroo · 28/09/2020 21:29

[quote madastrees]@jumpingkangaroo I don't think your post was helpful. I said that students with mh problems should be able to seek help. But you should listen to what the other students are saying too. What would you do in the university's shoes?

hester - the students themselves are describing the parties as raves.

I am out now - I dont' think this thread is helping anyone.[/quote]
Good, as I think your prejudice towards young people and mental health is evident. I wonder how you thought anything that you posted was ‘helpful’?

DominaShantotto · 28/09/2020 21:29

Any student calling it a rave is not a teenager. They don't know what that is. Language of older people.

Yep. This. Flashbacks to my lectures on linguistic change and "what words would you use to describe this?" seminar group which just degenerated into different generations vocabulary for shagging last year (it was bloody hilarious and highly immature).

Jumpingkangeroo · 28/09/2020 21:29

Because if you think there is mental health support at universities, you are surely trolling?

mumsneedwine · 28/09/2020 21:30

Well if the purpose of all this is for our educated young people to leave the country then the plan is going v well. So many talking about emigrating when graduate. New Zealand a favourite place to go. LYou reap what you sow.

HeresMe · 28/09/2020 21:30

I posted about this on the Christmas university thread yesterday.

It is not ok , and if we are ok with locking students in , when does it become the general populations doors getting boarded, it's a slow descent, powers are being abused.

Dustballs · 28/09/2020 21:30

It’s a weird hatred of young people who are really vulnerable. Disgusting.

I'm not sure if it's that. These attitudes puzzle me and I've come to the conclusion (rightly or wrongly) that they must be Boris supporters who have to convince themselves til they're blue in the face that they were right to vote for him.

I don't believe that any of these voices/people really think any of that stuff.

Or if they do - maybe that is why they voted Tory. Perhaps all Tory voters are as cold and callous as the Tories themselves.

I never believed that so many real people in the real world could be so heartless - perhaps they can ...

FreiasBathtub · 28/09/2020 21:32

I'm surprised at the ire towards universities on this thread. Let's put the blame where it lies. Who changed the A-level results a full week after universities made their admissions decisions, meaning that their careful planning from March onwards to manage the fresher intake in a safe and socially distant way had to be ripped up and redrawn in a couple of weeks to cope with the massive increase in student numbers? Who changed the rules about mingling and face to face contact days before students arrived on campus, meaning that face to face teaching plans had to be completely reorganised? Who requisitioned the lab capacity paid for by universities to test their students so they could return to campus in a safe way? Who refused to offer any financial support to universities so that they could tolerate a lower intake this year?

Make no mistake. If young people had stayed at home or deferred this year a large, large number of them would have no university place in 2021 because a large proportion of the sector would go under.

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