Further Lockdown areas all up North?

[GeorgieTheGorgeousGoat]

The majority of the places with exponential growth of positive cases who need to go back in to stricter lockdown measures seem to be up North, has there been any answers as to why this is?

Supposedly it’s more crowded in the South so you might expect to be the reverse. Are people just not sticking to the rules as well in those areas?

YES- those thick ignorant northerners are out on the piss and breaking all rules

Or maybe London is 2 weeks behind Leeds as the data shows and your post is inflammatory?

Wow touchy.

I don’t live in London btw

We are facing this in Birmingham and the wider West Midlands too, with the city, Solihull, Sandwell and Wolverhampton included. Walsall should have been added, and will certainly do so next week, as its cases doubled in the last few days.

I genuinely don't know. I'm in the east Midlands and cases here are fairly low everywhere apart from Leicester, whereas in the west Midlands cases are high and local lockdowns happening.

I really feel for the people of Leicester, they have been back in lockdown again for so so long now. I used to live there and have lots of friends still there, they don’t know either.

My own personal opinion is there are more workplaces that can't work remotely in the north compared to the south.

I think we all had it in the first wave when everyone had terrible coughs but they werent testing.

Sadiq Khan is complaining less testing been carried out in London and asking for a lockdown there, now.

Because we were released from the last lockdown when Southern figures were at an acceptable level. It was too soon for us hence the rise.

@DeadFuschia that was a bit uncalled for wasn't it? I think it is a very valid question to wonder why more lockdowns seem to be happening up north. It isn't a simple case of 2 weeks behind because loads of places have been in lockdown for much much longer than 2 weeks now.

How are Leicester and Wales in The North? Do you mean not London/Home Counties?

DeadFuschia OP is just trying to understand, and I know some lovely people from up north so not having ago. I also know it really can't be easy not allowed and able to do some of the simple things in life.

People seem to be very strict on themselves around here and I really don't know anyone whose had people in the house to socialise, ie almost like we're in lockdown. We visited the town in our borough on Saturday (first time) and you were the odd one out if you didn't have a mask on in the street. We eat out and every person (not just group member) had to fill in a track and trace form. Many pubs are already closing at 10pm. I half suspect this is helping, many of us haven't lived up the limit of restrictions which I know we're allowed to do. Having said that I do acknowledge numbers have doubled in our county today (35 over six boroughs) so I know we're not exempt as they'll be lots of crossover.

Population density of England for interest.

It’s just irritating when there are measures in Scotland, the Nw, Yorkshire, Ne? Not sure, Wales.

The south has slightly more immunity.
Maybe the North is friendlier.
Some schools went back earlier there.
Lower vit d more north you go.
I agree with the wfh as if a lot of outbreaks have been factories etc? We only had swindon i think and a farm in hereford.
Are these not just some of the next largest cities.
Lockdown was too early ? In some parts.
Sometimes its just timibg so a large outbreak just as something else is opening up.
In my la the rates just increased as the schools opened.
Some cities have better PT.

I’m in GM where we have had local restrictions for weeks and though they helped initially, the last few weeks cases are rising at a dramatic rate.
I’m not sure really but I think a factor is a higher proportion of people have lower paid jobs which tend to not lend themselves well to wfh. There are pockets of towns with a very high concentration of Asian families- not blaming them at all but they do seem to be more susceptible for debatable reasons. Finally I have heard that in Bolton in particularly sadly there are a lot of conspiracy theorists and others who for whatever reason are determined to ignore the rules - no evidence at all of course just what media is reporting. I would have thought you would get those kinds of idiots everywhere though.

Some of the earlier outbreaks were in factories which I think there are more of in the north. I’d guess so.

Because when it was rampant through London, there wasn't as many cases in the Northern areas. But the whole country was forced into Lockdown.

Now it has spread to the North, which of course it would eventually. These areas are just left to fend for themselves.

Also I believe back in March/April a much greater proportion of people in London got the virus than up north which means there is more herd immunity there now. I have no doubt london will not be far behind sadly.

Dh and I both work ‘in the community’ (ish) so go speak so I do feel concerned about that side of things.

However I will say that most people locally seem to be complying, I rarely see anyone in a shop without a mask etc.

@Fatted

Because when it was rampant through London, there wasn't as many cases in the Northern areas. But the whole country was forced into Lockdown.

Now it has spread to the North, which of course it would eventually. These areas are just left to fend for themselves.

It hasn’t been rampant in my area (not everyone in the south is London) so I guess we still have this to come.

Manchester has a lot of affected schools. Even if it doesnt spread a lot its like an extra. So a few with a couple of teachers affected would add up..
Not up north but 11cases in our schools since they reopened. Now we are up to 50 cases this week from 20 something last week. (One with 4 teachers) .

It was the reverse in the first wave, there weren’t many cases up north compared to south when we all went into full lockdown. Local lockdowns are not nearly as restrictive and the south now has some immunity.

The lockdown in the North East was asked for by the 7 local authorities and not the govt. It affects 2 million people, many in very low risk, low population areas. They decided to lockdown as a large expense, thinking that those in high risk areas would go to lower risk areas.