Did Boris change his mind about restrictions, are there more on the way?

[KetoPenguin]

A huge deal was made about the rising number of cases and I was all set for some really tough restrictions as were a lot of people who went back to panic buying toilet paper. So far it's just a curfew, and some stricter rules around mask wearing in shops, not even a ban on household mixing in England. Were they going to lockdown harder and decided against it? Are more restrictions on the way very soon? So many questions!

'I'd like to see a ban on meeting up with people outside your bubble and a restriction on travelling out of area, even though that means my week in Wales at half term is cancelled.'

Why would anyone actively want this? That ,for lots of people means no seeing friends anymore or family who might live in a different area. So many people's mental health has suffered horrendously this year - do we really want to go back to that after we've only just started being able to spend time with others again?! We (for the most part) are social beings and not meant to be isolated from others. Let people live life, make their own risk assessments. We can try to mitigate risk as much as is reasonably possible but I feel there is a point where the benefit of these restrictions is outweighed by the negative impact.

@Whenwilligrowup

'I'd like to see a ban on meeting up with people outside your bubble and a restriction on travelling out of area, even though that means my week in Wales at half term is cancelled.'

Why would anyone actively want this? That ,for lots of people means no seeing friends anymore or family who might live in a different area. So many people's mental health has suffered horrendously this year - do we really want to go back to that after we've only just started being able to spend time with others again?! We (for the most part) are social beings and not meant to be isolated from others. Let people live life, make their own risk assessments. We can try to mitigate risk as much as is reasonably possible but I feel there is a point where the benefit of these restrictions is outweighed by the negative impact.

Oh silly you - you must've missed the MN memo. Only Covid matters. Nothing else - sod the economy, and everyones mental health. No one should do anything until its SAFE to do so.

HTH

‘I won’t be complying’......FFS if people had complied with the very basic restrictions when we came out of lockdown then they wouldn’t be putting more strict ones in place. Are people just thick????

Whether people are ‘over it’ or not this government will eventually put us back in a tough lockdown again if we don’t comply.

COVID isn't going to go away, we have to learn to live with it! Of course the numbers will go down if we have another lockdown but they will just go back up when they try to ease it again, so it's all pointless.

@Hyperfish101

‘I won’t be complying’......FFS if people had complied with the very basic restrictions when we came out of lockdown then they wouldn’t be putting more strict ones in place. Are people just thick????

Whether people are ‘over it’ or not this government will eventually put us back in a tough lockdown again if we don’t comply.

and then at the end of that "tough" lockdown, the restrictions will be lifted again and exactly the same thing will happen again.

As monty09 says - this virus isnt going anywhere. Its a virus. All lockdowns (even tough ones!!) do is delay things a bit.That's it. Except that they also massively impact peoples MH, and fuck the economy over even more than it already is.

@Keepdistance

We're at the Cheltenham and football match stage again. With a wash your hands.

Yup

No household mixing here in Lancashire as of today. It covers a large area of the north west.

@KetoPenguin

It's just strange that they wheeled out the CMO and Chief Scientist (still not sure if chief scientist is a real job title or made up for TV) and then did basically nothing much.

I'm pretty sure they're trying to get the warnings in now but do it really slowly, because they want the public to be completely 'there' when they do it. We also have a long winter. I think they'll stop household mixing in the next few weeks. And then it'll be until March. Warming us up for that.

@Juststopswimming true, but we only need a few lockdowns and then breaks until the vaccinecomes.

[quote BabyLlamaZen]@Juststopswimming true, but we only need a few lockdowns and then breaks until the vaccinecomes.[/quote]
A few lockdowns - but lets just stop and think of what the economy will look like at the end of that. The no. of suicides. The no. of people who wont be able to say goodbye to loved ones dying from (Shock!!) things other than covid. It goes on and on. Is that really what we want?

And lets not forget the magical unicorn vaccine that may or may not work. Are you really prepared to live your life like that indefinitely??

I suspect big list of more measures in back pockets.

Cleaning my windows this afternoon, enjoyed listening/watching my neighbour interact with sweet grand-daughter. Yeah sure, wouldn't life be better if they couldn't see each other any more. :(

I thought the whole point of lockdown was to try and stop the NHS getting overwhelmed, so that people suffering from everything other than coronavirus aren't going to miss out on urgent care. Doesn't seem pointless to me. We can't just let it get out of control.

I can see further measures being put in place down the line.

The virus isn’t going away......yes I realise that. 🙄 What I’m saying is that whatever WE want, a failure to do what the govt want now will just result in more restrictions. Just see what he said tonight.

Right, and what I am saying is that people are so fed up, the govt can say what they like and put whatever stringent restrictions they like in place, and people will still break them. I just think we have reached a point where people will do what suits them/take the risks theyre prepared to take for their individual circumstance.

Be adults and teach your children that they cannot have everything they want when they want it. And I know most are good at that, but some are very indulgent and panic sometimes.

Good lesson for us all.

Far too much indulgence going on IMV. Times are changing and as others have said, this bug ain't going anywhere, so time to adjust all our expectations I think, and hopefully only for a short while.

Winter is a bugger anyway even without Covid. So keep calm and have a conniption, or carry on. Up to you!

Yes we’re all fed up but I was happily putting up with SD And mask wearing but because dickheads couldn’ t even be arsed to do that, we are where we are.

And yes, there is a big concern about other illnesses and mental health and the economy but there are also a lot of very selfish people who don’t give a Stuff about anyone else who have contributed to this shitshow.

i feel like we are going back to square 1.

tough lockdown over winter. definately. be a grim time. i will be complying with the rules 100 %

This is just a stepping stone. He is laying the groundwork for more restrictions.

Listening to radio polls show public now care more about economy than back in April / May

It was 75% health first now about half / half

In any case I think it’s right the economy is the other major consideration in that needs to be balanced with overall healthcare

I dont blame the "dickheads" I blame the government- our embarrassing excuse for track and trace; the fact that its easier to get Glastonbury tickets than a covid test.

If those two basic systems were functioning properly we would be in a much better state. Its easier to blame the rule breaking "dickheads" though isnt it?

If we have several more full lockdowns, we won’t have an economy to restart.

I’m happy with the level of restrictions currently in place in England, even if they last six months. I can’t see the public wearing a full lockdown again - apparently only one in five people are fully isolating when asked to after being told they’ve been in contact with someone who’s tested positive, so people are hardly likely to comply with staying locked at home again.

@monty09

COVID isn't going to go away, we have to learn to live with it! Of course the numbers will go down if we have another lockdown but they will just go back up when they try to ease it again, so it's all pointless.

Completely agree with this. We can’t suppress covid, the genie is out of the box/lamp and there’s no putting it in again. We need moderate restrictions that are sustainable in the long term.

I don’t think anyone is disagreeing! No one wants a full lockdown. Unfortunately if we don’t comply to restrictions as they stand they will get worse.

Trouble is moderate restrictions are now too much for some it seems.

And restrictions are not point,easy if they slow transmission....that’s surely the point isn’t it? No govt will risk bodies piling up in an overwhelmed NHS. I mean, that may. It happen but that’s what they are trying to avoid.

@Hyperfish101

‘I won’t be complying’......FFS if people had complied with the very basic restrictions when we came out of lockdown then they wouldn’t be putting more strict ones in place. Are people just thick????

Whether people are ‘over it’ or not this government will eventually put us back in a tough lockdown again if we don’t comply.

It really depends what you mean by complying. I don't go to bars, restaurants or shops. I have no kids in school. I don't take public transport. Or sport facilities. I didn't eat out to help out.

All of which is legal but increases risk factors for spread.
I'm the local lockdown areas we can do all of those things, but aren't meant to have the children's grandparents in our home.
Where does that make any sense with regard to stopping spread?