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So what is it?

18 replies

TheBeatGoesOn · 22/09/2020 12:46

Keep reading that the rates of coronavirus are dropping in London, that most of the tests are false positives and that Whitty and Valance massively overestimated the seriousness of it all and I can't help but wonder who to believe.Hmm

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Timeforanotherusername · 22/09/2020 12:51

Yep any decision has got to be based on how things are in London ffs Angry

Timeforanotherusername · 22/09/2020 12:52

don't believe the 'experts' that sold you Brexit.

Believe the actual Experts.

PinkyU · 22/09/2020 12:53

Where are you reading that?

TheBeatGoesOn · 22/09/2020 14:59

Various source.

It's so stressful not knowing who is right and who is just stating facts without really knowing what they are on about.

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Chaotic45 · 22/09/2020 16:35
Biscuit
AnneLovesGilbert · 22/09/2020 16:36

Various sources who know more than the country’s top medical experts? Really, do tell...

Itsabeautifuldayheyhey · 22/09/2020 16:37

The Govt don't just listen to Chris Whitty and Sir Patrick Valance. I think I read there were about 40-50 scientists involved in Sage.

Itsabeautifuldayheyhey · 22/09/2020 16:38

Where are you reading this stuff, OP?

RepeatSwan · 22/09/2020 16:39

I'm sure the drop in positive cases is absolutely nothing to do with the fact people can't get a test Hmm

'I can't help but wonder who to believe, the nation's top medical and scientific advisors, or Sue's cousin Jeff on Facebook?'

Lemons1571 · 22/09/2020 16:39

Hospital admissions and deaths are going up.

TheBeatGoesOn · 22/09/2020 17:09

All the media say different to each other. It's stressful working out if all these restrictions are valid or based on dodgy evidence such as false positive tests. Confused

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Cornettoninja · 22/09/2020 18:09

Where is the evidence for false positives coming from? The challenge for anyone repeating that is to back it up with source information and then it’s up to you to determine how trustworthy that source is. NHS is far more reliable than ‘free your face’ Mike.

If they can’t provide it or put the onus on you ‘to educate yourself’ you can pretty much be certain it’s baseless bollocks. It’s never up to you to prove what someone else is saying is true.

AnneLovesGilbert · 22/09/2020 19:15

I’ve got a friend who’s in turkey, got bad symptoms so got tested and has been told even if it’s negative to assume it’s positive as they think they’re getting lots of false negatives.

JS87 · 22/09/2020 19:19

The media aren’t saying different to the government. It’s just that occasionally they allow slightly crazy columnists to bash out their own conspiracy theories etc. Just believe what the government tells you. They had some loon on pm tonight who kept rabbiting on about how we had to get on with life but in the same breath kept saying flu was caused by a Coronavirus too 🙄

JS87 · 22/09/2020 19:21

You can’t get a false positive pcr test unless the lab messes up (strict controls to ensure that doesn’t happen and if it did it would just be mixing up tests so the number of positives would be the same). The confusion is that some people may have dead virus for sometime which could be amplified by a test but it would only be people who had previously had cv so very low numbers overall as generally it’s nit picking up dead virus.

Cornettoninja · 22/09/2020 19:41

@AnneLovesGilbert

I’ve got a friend who’s in turkey, got bad symptoms so got tested and has been told even if it’s negative to assume it’s positive as they think they’re getting lots of false negatives.
No disrespect to you personally, but the ‘I’ve got a friend who says..’ anecdote also isn’t exactly reliable is it?
AnneLovesGilbert · 22/09/2020 20:27

Who said it was reliable? I’m passing on an anecdote. In response to anecdotes about people with false negatives, the hospital my friend is in told him the think the tests they’re using are giving what the doctors think are false negatives. I’m no expect, I’m spending my time listening to the experts. And I’ll continue also sharing anecdotes on a chat forum.

AnneLovesGilbert · 22/09/2020 20:28

First false negative should be positive.

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