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GCSE/A Level will be teacher assessed again?

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Lemons1571 · 20/09/2020 13:41

Watching how this is all going, with many 14 day isolations and patchy remote provision, I can’t see next years exams happening. I don’t think the government can either. It’s not a fair playing field. At this rate the year 11/13’s won’t even cover all the content, let alone revision techniques. And this chaotic situation is going to run until at least the spring.

I suspect that’s why primaries are prioritised over secondaries in the current guidance. Keeping primaries open does at least let parents work and help the economy. Keeping secondaries open doesn't (at least short term). Bung them all their predicted grades and say “we tried”. That’s why schools are doing assessments in the next few weeks, to get some data ready.

If nothing has changed with the covid situation come spring, we won’t even be able to get the kids together in a hall to physically sit the exams. They won’t fit while keeping 2m distance. If they hire external halls they’ll need hundreds of trained invigilators (and these are often older people so understandably may not want the job!). What if they have to start a 14 day isolation the day before their first exam? Do they get awarded nothing?

I think Ofqual can’t say this yet, as the affected year groups would just stop working right now. But I am really struggling to see how these exams could fairly happen in 8 months time.

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cologne4711 · 21/09/2020 07:29

Pupils aren’t up to sitting exams next year, say teachers
Nicola Woolcock, Education Correspondent | Rosemary Bennett, Education Editor
Monday September 21 2020, 12.01am, The Times
Education

A survey found that over 50 per cent of teachers with pupils due to take exams next summer felt they were not on track to get the results they should achieve
A survey found that over 50 per cent of teachers with pupils due to take exams next summer felt they were not on track to get the results they should achieve
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Questions surround next year’s GCSE and A-level exams after ministers, unions and private schools raised doubts that they would run as normal.

Scotland is likely to cancel the equivalent of GCSEs — National 5 tests — but will press ahead with a scaled-back version of Highers, which are akin to A-levels, it was reported yesterday.

The leader of a private school body told The Times that heads of elite schools doubted whether exams would take place next year due to the amount of schooling lost and fresh disruption from coronavirus testing problems.

The biggest teaching union, the National Education Union, said it was time for a radical rethink of assessment otherwise next year’s exams would be a measure of disruption not attainment.

Heads belonging to the Headmasters and Headmistresses Conference (HMC), the group of 280 oldest and biggest private schools, are making their own plan, including working with exam boards to see how they could use a form of mock tests if exams are cancelled.

Simon Hyde, the HMC’s new general secretary, said they planned to compile detailed data over the next two terms.

“One possible alternative would be peer-reviewed pupil assessments, which operates in Germany, where a teacher marks a paper and then sends it off to another school to moderate,” he said. Mr Hyde said last year’s loss of learning “was bad enough”, adding: “But this year’s Year 11s and 13s have missed substantial chunks of the curriculum. We can’t plan on the basis of an uninterrupted school year.

“Schools are sending home whole year groups already because someone has taken ill. We really need some serious and immediate thinking.”

Most teachers said teenagers due to sit GCSEs and A-levels next year were not on track to get the results they deserved, a survey has found.

It found that 81 per cent of heads did not have enough funding to fully equip pupils taking exams in 2021 with textbooks or workbooks.

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The survey of almost 7,000 teachers by Teacher Tapp app, for the Publishers Association, found that staff in the most deprived schools were more concerned that pupils would miss out — with 60 per cent of these teachers saying they could not provide resources needed for home study compared with fewer than 1 per cent of staff in private schools.

Fifty three per cent of teachers with pupils due to take exams next summer felt they were not on track to get the results they should achieve. This rose to 66 per cent in schools with the most children receiving free school meals.

Mary Bousted, joint general secretary of the National Education Union (NEU), said: “The government has to get real about the ongoing impact of Covid, as it works with Ofqual on the exams for next summer. As things stand, exams will become a measure of the disruption caused by Covid rather than what pupils are capable of.

“This is an opportunity for radical thinking. We’re going to need to adapt how we assess and examine students.”

In Scotland, ministers are expected to drop National 5 tests as a result of the pandemic. However, under plans being considered by John Swinney, the education secretary, a scaled-back version of Highers would still go ahead, The Sunday Times reported yesterday.

Mr Swinney is expected to make an announcement before the October half-term break, reflecting the extent to which pupils fell behind during the lockdown. It will be informed by the findings of a review into this year’s exam fiasco while a report on the future of exams, by the Scottish Qualifications Authority (SQA), is also imminent.

Last week, Gavin Williamson, the education secretary, said the government was “actively considering” pushing back exams. An announcement is due next month. He told MPs that students could sit exams in public buildings if social distancing was required, while a “reserve set” of exam papers could be introduced if pupils were unable to sit a test while ill or self-isolating.

A Department for Education spokesman said: “We recognise that students due to take exams next summer will have experienced disruption to their education, which is why we prioritised bringing Year 10 and Year 12 pupils back to school last term.”

Rethinking Assessments, a group of private and state schools, could launch a campaign to end GCSEs, The Observer reported. Members include Eton, St Paul’s Girls’ School, and several academy chains.

meditrina · 21/09/2020 07:39

My friend has a year 11 who is already off school for a fortnight (year group closed, because someone sent in a symptomatic pupil,who tested positive)

Even though the 'lost' summer term is one of the shorter ones, the autumn one really isn't, and some schools are going to be much worse affected than others. And some schools have way better off-site provision too.

I really don't know what can be done about 11s and 13s (and their parallel years in other home nations), as they simply won't have the time to cover the syllabus (this summer's cohort at least had finished the content)

What I'd really like to see is proper attention to years 10 and 12 - so that the number of buggered-up years is the fewest. And for it to be done now, not left until later when the damage is done

MarshaBradyo · 21/09/2020 07:43

Meditrina there’s still time to turn it around for yr11.

Ds school is full steam ahead. I don’t want to throw hands up for his entire year.

meditrina · 21/09/2020 07:56

I really hope you're right @MarshaBradyo

UntilYourNextHairBrainedScheme · 21/09/2020 08:02

Most countries didn't cancel any exams this summer. Cancelling the exams and giving out fairly random grades (which depended largely in the ethos of the school) didn't work very well this year.

More flexibility in choosing papers with subjects specific classes have studied would be a good idea, but isduing Grades without exams or coursework is a joke - some schools splashed high grades around to make themselves look good and some went by mock grades where mocks had been intended to isdue a kick up the backside or we're cautious to avoid being suspected of grade inflation. Grades issued reflected candidate ability only very loosely.

minnimiss · 21/09/2020 08:27

I have a child in college who is having to resit maths and English along with his new course but due to being in an area with local restrictions in place they are doing a lot of remote teaching, which seems to consist of sign in online and pick up work. It's hardly teaching, and as a child who struggled in these subjects this isn't really helpful, so I'm thinking that surely they can't expect children to take exams if they are not being taught?

Baaaahhhhh · 21/09/2020 08:33

PHE or DofE or whoever it is, needs to sort out schools responses to Covid positive pupils. It was never supposed to be full years off because of one pupil testing positive. They only schools I know of locally who have had positive cases have only sent home close contacts. The rest of the year then comes back. Maybe our council is setting the advice?

notevenat20 · 21/09/2020 08:37

I don't fully understand why exams can't happen normally. Given the 100s of billions covid has cost the economy already, how much would it really cost to hire enough halls so all students are correctly spaced apart?

Flower262 · 21/09/2020 08:38

My dd’s year 13 have all been sent home for 2 weeks, 7 cases and an additional 20 testing, out of a year group of 180.

Previous online provision was rather hit and miss.

If this is how this year is going to be, constantly in and out then I’m really worried about a levels in the summer.

ineedaholidaynow · 21/09/2020 08:58

Schools are told who to send home by PHE or whatever the equivalent is now, the school shouldn’t be making the decision. They have to report a positive test and then a decision is made.

Bridecilla · 21/09/2020 09:26

@notevenat20

I don't fully understand why exams can't happen normally. Given the 100s of billions covid has cost the economy already, how much would it really cost to hire enough halls so all students are correctly spaced apart?
Would you still say that if your child was in a 2 week isolation period and couldn't sit their exams whilst their non isolating friends could?
mrshoho · 21/09/2020 09:32

@notevenat20

I don't fully understand why exams can't happen normally. Given the 100s of billions covid has cost the economy already, how much would it really cost to hire enough halls so all students are correctly spaced apart?
Why the hell do they need extra halls now to be spaced apart? All schools have returned to the same size of buildings. Why would there suddenly be a need to be socially distanced more so then they already are during public exams? If they are fine to cram in to classrooms what difference will sitting in a spaced out hall be?
notevenat20 · 21/09/2020 09:33

Would you still say that if your child was in a 2 week isolation period and couldn't sit their exams whilst their non isolating friends could?

No!

MarshaBradyo · 21/09/2020 09:35

Would you still say that if your child was in a 2 week isolation period and couldn't sit their exams whilst their non isolating friends could?

Children must get ill on exam day in normal times. What do they do? Resit?

ineedaholidaynow · 21/09/2020 09:37

So maybe that’s why exams can’t happen. Or if some areas have had more lockdown than others, so at the moment pupils in the SW are at a distinct advantage to those elsewhere as fewer schools seem to have bubbles bursting at the moment (although that could change!) So they will have had more time in school and less disruption and no matter how good remote provision can be, it is not the same as being in school

TheDrsDocMartens · 21/09/2020 09:38

Schools don’t have the money to do that. Or probably the invigilators who will mainly be over 65 (going off those I work with).

MarshaBradyo · 21/09/2020 09:39

Exams are the best bet according to Ofqual

But there should be provision around making it fairer across regions

Bridecilla · 21/09/2020 09:41

@MarshaBradyo

Would you still say that if your child was in a 2 week isolation period and couldn't sit their exams whilst their non isolating friends could?

Children must get ill on exam day in normal times. What do they do? Resit?

Yes, but that would normally affect very few. What if a whole class is isolating?
MarshaBradyo · 21/09/2020 09:42

Bridecella

Why can’t they hold it another time? That seems an easier fix than some of the issues were facing

ineedaholidaynow · 21/09/2020 09:43

What would happen if a Y11 bubble bursts during exams, that would be the whole Y11 missing the exams

mrshoho · 21/09/2020 09:43

Oqual are apparently arranging for separate papers to be produced for those students unable to take the official paper on the day.

We don't know how this Winter is going to play out but I'm sure all stops will be pulled to allow Students to sit the exams. I completely agree that the playing field may well be more uneven than ever. I've told my daughter it's important to make every assessment count and mocks to be taken seriously.

IrmaFayLear · 21/09/2020 09:45

Well, what’s the alternative to exams? It’s not possible to have CAGS again as every school will have learned to award 9s and A*s to everyone.

Lemons1571 · 21/09/2020 10:50

@notevenat20 because an awful lot of kids have not been taught all of the content. They’ve missed March-Sept and then potentially several fortnights at home in the next few months. Some schools remote provision is lacking (a few worksheets if you’re lucky). Schools have been given no extra money to properly set up and support remote learning. With such disparity there is an uneven playing field before the kids have even walked into the exam hall.

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notevenat20 · 21/09/2020 10:56

because an awful lot of kids have not been taught all of the content. They’ve missed March-Sept and then potentially several fortnights at home in the next few months. Some schools remote provision is lacking (a few worksheets if you’re lucky). Schools have been given no extra money to properly set up and support remote learning. With such disparity there is an uneven playing field before the kids have even walked into the exam hall.

This is sadly the truth. And it's even worse if you look at the disparity between state and private school educational provision during lockdown.

MarshaBradyo · 21/09/2020 10:58

We’ve had good provision but agree it varies across state too