Are we heading back to being at home all day again?

[lesbihonest]

I’ve just started getting hospital appointments again; GP appointment for the first time since February and due a haircut on Monday ... we also popped out to a cafe for first time two weeks ago and really enjoyed ourselves . Slowly travelling slightly further afield (ie no further than 30 miles) . Still haven’t seen any friends, and only three relatives ... we do live in an area with v low cases and feels quite safe ...

I can’t bear the thought of everything around us closing back down though for another four months as before - surely not? I really can’t manage another six months in the same three mile square with only one outdoor walk allowed each day . Desperately trying to find something on TV/media to reassure me that won’t be happening !

A lot of people are not going to bother this time and there is not the manpower to enforce it. Lockdowns don't work.

But still, don't tell me it wasn't "the law". My local constabulary had no doubts that driving any distance to exercise was against the law. They would not have hesitated to levy a fine if I had been a repeat "offender."

You local police force was grossly in the wrong and needs complaint about. Other police told people their kids couldn't play in gardens ect.

Just because the police tell you something is the law doesn't make them correct.

@Rosehip10

There were never "one walk per day" rules?

There flippin' well was. There was never an hour limit but there was definitely one form of exercise a day.

We will be expected to be at home more than at present it feels.

But not all the time.

Feeling like few options of where we will be able to actually go.

The law was not to be out without good reason. Some people will have had good reason to do more than one form of exercise a day. The list of good reasons were some possible reasons but not all possible good reasons.

@CokeyCola

There were in England too I'm sure.

The law didn’t specify one walk per day but the government did say that was what they considered reasonable.

It was once per day exercise at the beginning. If you google it comes up for March.

But no I don’t think people will go back to that if they don’t want to. No one can stop you going out again and the public mood has changed.

I think it will be very hard to get people to take any restrictions seriously now, while they are still having to go to work and school, while pubs are open etc.

I also think that if we do have tighter restrictions now, as we move into winter, the effect on MH will make the previous lockdown, quite literally, look like a walk in the park.

It's interesting that on my local FB group in March/April, when people posted about rule infractions, there would be pages of people condemning the rule breakers. Now, if someone complains that people have broken the rule of six, or aren't social distancing etc, they get told to mind their own business.

So I googled it got this from the independent

"On 23 March, the UK was placed under strict lockdown. During this period, members of the public were permitted to only leave their homes to shop for essentials or go out in certain circumstances. As part of the lockdown, the public was encouraged to only participate in one form of daily exercise outdoors, despite a limit not being imposed by law.

However, amid mounting pressure over the impact that inactivity and being indoors can have on mental health, the prime minister confirmed in his address to the nation on Sunday 10 May that the English public can now participate in any amount of daily outdoor exercise."

Note the end of the first paragraph a limit not imposed in law. As said there wasn't a limited you were just fooled into thinking there was.

If anyone thinks there was ever legislation limiting people in England to one trip out per day for exercise, please link to it. The actual law.

@Rosehip10

"There were never "one walk per day" rules?"

That did happen in the uk. We could only go out for an hour each day, with the dog.

Ok, so none of us should have followed any guidance that wasn't made law? Most of the restrictions were never law in England but we were told fairly firmly by you know, the government, that they were to be followed.

Is the rule of six law?

Guidance was in the media so it’s no surprise that people read it over whatever else there was not reported on for that time (ie legislation).

How many times a day can I exercise?

The government advice stipulates that members of the public can leave the house for “one form of exercise a day”.

It puts no time limit on the span of your exercise, but states that those undertaking outdoor exercise must “minimise the time you are out of your home”.

@Getbettersoon

Ok, so none of us should have followed any guidance that wasn't made law? Most of the restrictions were never law in England but we were told fairly firmly by you know, the government, that they were to be followed.

Is the rule of six law?

Yes it is which is probably lucky considering

@Beautiful3 Please link to the legislation that states you could only go out to exercise once per day and for one hour only? NB random interviews for a Government minister don't count - any action the police and the courts take is based on legislation (as many police forces found when the CPS threw out fines etc on appeal).

@Rosehip10 ahh you are one of those edgy free thinkers that ignores guidances as it’s not legal.

*not illegal rather.

[quote AldiAisleofCrap]@Rosehip10 ahh you are one of those edgy free thinkers that ignores guidances as it’s not legal. [/quote]
What an odd response.

@HeresMe please watch this from 2.10. We were only supposed to do one form of exercise a day.

@yetiyoga
As rosehip said point us to law, not what was said actaul law, you can post as many videos as you want. Doesn't make a law.

@Rosehip10 fancy you being one of those edgy freethinkers ect for wanting proof.

You'll be able to find actual laws on the legislation.gov.uk site.

Reading the legislation and following the law makes you an “edgy free thinker” does it?! There’s no hope for me then, I regularly read the Covid regulations - they don’t stay constant, they get updated fairly frequently (and check the legislative mechanism used to implement them).

I find it more shocking that so many people don’t actually understand how the law works in the U.K. - not even the basics.

I read the law at the time (I'm a lawyer - I prefer to rely on primary sources rather than the interpretation someone puts on it). @NarcissistsEyebrows is spot on. The actual law said you couldn't leave home without a reasonable excuse. One of the categories of reasonable excuse was exercise. There was no time limit or any limit on the number of times per day (in England), although various politicians and news sources misrepresented that there was.

Love a Statutory Instrument.