Lancashire restrictions afternoon tea booked

Remmy123 · 18/09/2020 13:39

Yes say your sisters

Lilybet1980 · 18/09/2020 13:42

From the government guidance:

From Monday 14 September, in line with the new rules across the whole of England, you must not meet in a group of more than 6 people in any location (other than specific exemptions, set out in the national guidance). However, for people who live in the affected areas, we continue to advise that you should not:

socialise with people you do not live with, unless they’re in your support bubble, in any public venue. This applies to inside and outside of the affected areas. Examples of public venues include pubs, restaurants, cafes, shops, places of worship, community centres, leisure and entertainment venues, or visitor attractions and parks

CarrieBlue · 18/09/2020 13:59

@Bettyboop89

I live in a restricted area and I have an afternoon tea booked with a friend who I don’t live with next Saturday. Will I still be allowed to go? It’s all been booked and paid for. We are from two different households.

If it’s booked and paid for then that’s fine, the virus will know not to spread between you.

Deelish75 · 18/09/2020 14:35

Check with the venue that you can reschedule for a later date.

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Bettyboop89 · 18/09/2020 16:36

I just read it says ‘advises against’ meeting other households in indoor venues such as pubs. But it’s not banned, like inside houses and gardens are.

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HampsteadHeathen · 18/09/2020 16:40

You need to rearrange

chunkyrun · 18/09/2020 16:48

If it's not banned I would go. Life has to move on, can't keep waiting around for a virus to disappear

CarrieBlue · 18/09/2020 16:48

@Bettyboop89

I just read it says ‘advises against’ meeting other households in indoor venues such as pubs. But it’s not banned, like inside houses and gardens are.

Then crack on, you must be enjoying your local restrictions if you’re looking for loopholes, they won’t be going away anytime soon

RepeatSwan · 18/09/2020 16:52

The idea that people would not just ditch an afternoon tea blows my mind!

The government really is dragging it's heels, we are facing rapidly rising cases.

Think it's time to pick a side to be honest. We are getting to crunch point.

I wouldn't be breaking any guidelines, so I wouldn't go.

cologne4711 · 18/09/2020 17:02

Either postpone or see if you can have a table outside. That said, I don't know the detail of your local restrictions so even meeting outside may not be allowed.

Itsabeautifuldayheyhey · 18/09/2020 17:05

@Remmy123

Yes say your sisters
Presumably the OP wants to know whether she is actually allowed to do so. I'm quite sure she can decide for herself whether to comply with the rules/laws without being encouraged to break rules/laws by idiots.

OP, as of this coming Tuesday, unless even more areas are added to the list, there will be 10 million people who cannot meet up with people outside their households.
There is a possibility that the whole country will have much stricter measures imposed on us over the school half term holiday IF people continue to ignore restrictions.

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Bettyboop89 · 18/09/2020 17:09

Ok can I meet said friend outside for a walk? As it’s been a long time since we’ve seen each other. I feel so sad about it all. I mean if we don’t go for afternoon tea.

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Muchtoomuchtodo · 18/09/2020 17:10

English local lockdowns mean that you shouldn’t be socialising with anyone outside of your own household.

They don’t specifically mention your prebooked afternoon tea with a friend who you don’t live with, but I would interpret it that you need to reschedule it.

Why on Earth are some people so hellbent on trying to interpret things so that new restrictions don’t apply to them? They’ve had to be introduced because of a significant increase in numbers. That’s going to need a significant change in behaviour from a significant number of people to see a significant change.

It’s annoying but it’s actually quite straightforward for the majority of circumstances.

Muchtoomuchtodo · 18/09/2020 17:11

No socialising.

No tea

No walks.

Try zoom

RepeatSwan · 18/09/2020 17:12

@Bettyboop89

Ok can I meet said friend outside for a walk? As it’s been a long time since we’ve seen each other. I feel so sad about it all. I mean if we don’t go for afternoon tea.

As I said, it's time to pick your side. We are getting to a dangerous place.

If the guidance says don't meet people from other households, I think what they are asking you to do is not meet people from other households.

There's been too much dicking about imo.

RepeatSwan · 18/09/2020 17:14

Also I understand we all miss our friends etc., but I'd be more sad about the whole virus kicking back off, with possibly tragic consequences for local families, than missing an afternoon tea.

NameChange84 · 18/09/2020 17:15

English local lockdowns mean that you shouldn’t be socialising with anyone outside of your own household.

They don’t specifically mention your prebooked afternoon tea with a friend who you don’t live with, but I would interpret it that you need to reschedule it.

Why on Earth are some people so hellbent on trying to interpret things so that new restrictions don’t apply to them? They’ve had to be introduced because of a significant increase in numbers. That’s going to need a significant change in behaviour from a significant number of people to see a significant change.

It’s annoying but it’s actually quite straightforward for the majority of circumstances.

This.

No, you shouldn’t go for afternoon tea or a walk with someone outside your household. Sorry, but that’s just the way it is and the more people that think the rules shouldn’t or don’t apply to them the longer we are going to be stuck in this mess and worse.

radioband · 18/09/2020 17:16

I live in Lancashire, my thoughts are that you can’t meet up at all in any place. It’s utter crap and I think the start of further restrictions for the whole country.

janinlondon · 18/09/2020 17:16

There are two layers to the restrictions - the "banned" and the "advised against". Only one layer has been selected to be legally enforceable. The devil is in the detail. You are advised not to meet outside your household, but you are perfectly free to do so outside of either person's home. The law applies only to homes and private household gardens.

janinlondon · 18/09/2020 17:18

If all the pubs and restaurants in the restricted areas were told they could only have one household at any table, there would be no point at all to them opening......

BexR · 18/09/2020 17:22

I'm baffled at how people can't conceive that restrictions mean they wont be able to go ahead with plans. Numerous threads along these lines, "I have booked x, can I go?".

The guidance is clear, randoms on the internet might cheer you on but they wont be around when you are dealing with covid symptoms or explaining your behaviour to track and trace - you'll feel very foolish.

ThatDamnScientist · 18/09/2020 17:23

I am in one of these restricted areas. Do not do it. It is utterly selfish. The restrictions are being applied because people are not following the rules. I have an autistic child who's support groups have been cancelled for months, another child waiting for assessments who can't have them.

Please people follow the rules

MJMG2015 · 18/09/2020 17:28

I found this for another thread earlier, see if it helps you decide on restrictions in YOUR specific area

www.lancashire.gov.uk/coronavirus-updates/coronavirus-restrictions-in-lancashire/

janinlondon · 18/09/2020 17:45

The law may not be sufficient - and many people were hoping for more. But it is clear and it is in print in many places. The legally banned activity is households mixing in each other's homes or private gardens. There is advice not to socialize in pubs or restaurants, but it is advice only. Not a ban.
bbc news
northern echo
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fifteenisthemagicnumber · 18/09/2020 17:49

I'm assuming if pubs and restaurants are open then it's not against the law to go to them with people from outside of your household?
OP is there an option for you to sit outside?