Where has feminism gone?

[notevenat20]

One the most obvious markers of feminist progress in a country is the percentage of women who work. In Italy, for example, it is much lower than Denmark. A key step in this feminist fight is full time in person schooling for children. Even after full time schooling was introduced, in many countries women would have to take children home for lunch or there would be half days on some days. All these things destroy a women's chance to have a career.

Now we have covid and a never ending debate about blended learning, online learning, part-time school etc. All these things are a catastrophe for women's rights as inevitably it will mean women losing their careers , independence and identity. We should be fighting against them with all our strength.

But I don't hear these voices here. Am I alone? Where have all the feminists gone?

I agree. People just don't question any more.

Busy surviving?

If my children need ad hoc days off school, it is my husband who takes the day off, or works from home.

What do you want to hear?

I can say if our child is off we have both been taking time off for him.
And so many of our family and friends.

If your beloved government cared about women's rights they don't, the PM barely parents they would have got their act together and opened schools safely and steadily.
Instead of the current shit show of no tests and various infection control measures in schools.

This feminist is on the verge of handing in a resignation. Normally I’m pushing the feminist message whenever I can.

I cannot repeat last term. I just can’t do it, I’ll have a nervous breakdown.

I work in a high pressure long hours job (in research, so lots of Covid work these last few months, ironically).

I have a PhD and a senior role which I spent my whole working life building towards.

We’re going back to the 50s and it’s depressing.

If two parents have children who are of school age, it's up to them to sort out who stays home if this stuff happens. The mother should make sure it's not always her.

I agree that 'we've' dropped the ball on the feminist thing as a generation, but in your own family - women in their own families - should sort it out.

My partner and I both went part time when our child was 0 - 5. When she started school, we both went back to full time. Childcare on a day to day basis is completely split down the middle. During lockdown we split the day in half so we could both work.

Make it happen.
Make sure your career choices are supported as equal, irrespective of salary. If someone isn't supporting your career choices, then that's a bigger issue than how to manage an ill or isolating child.
Make sure your leisure time is supported equally, irrespective of parenting role. Again, if it's not, why are you putting up with that?

I'd say that to any person, not solely women.

Meanwhile, in our house right now, he's in bed with our child, I'm working. I'm now working outside of the house, full time - he does both school runs, he hosts play dates, he'll have to have her home with him if that needs to happen.

A load of this stuff is personal choice.

Corona probably took them all out trying to have equal rights.

@Stinkywizzleteets

Busy surviving?

Precisely

It really isn't a personal choice. The patriarchy is alive and kicking.

@ohthegoats

If two parents have children who are of school age, it's up to them to sort out who stays home if this stuff happens. The mother should make sure it's not always her.

I agree that 'we've' dropped the ball on the feminist thing as a generation, but in your own family - women in their own families - should sort it out.

My partner and I both went part time when our child was 0 - 5. When she started school, we both went back to full time. Childcare on a day to day basis is completely split down the middle. During lockdown we split the day in half so we could both work.

Make it happen.
Make sure your career choices are supported as equal, irrespective of salary. If someone isn't supporting your career choices, then that's a bigger issue than how to manage an ill or isolating child.
Make sure your leisure time is supported equally, irrespective of parenting role. Again, if it's not, why are you putting up with that?

I'd say that to any person, not solely women.

Meanwhile, in our house right now, he's in bed with our child, I'm working. I'm now working outside of the house, full time - he does both school runs, he hosts play dates, he'll have to have her home with him if that needs to happen.

A load of this stuff is personal choice.

Rubbish to that. You dismiss the engraved patriarchy in society and suggest it women’s fault for not sorting their timetable out? Fuck that. Women face so many aspects of discrimination it’s not simply a case of dividing child care 🙄

@endofthelinefinally

It really isn't a personal choice. The patriarchy is alive and kicking.

This!

ohthegoats

This is why many people don't comment on the feminism chat.

ohthegoats That wasn't for you sorry, that was for the person quoting you.