Wwyd. Family not self isolating

[Helenj1977]

For 2 days both my dds have come home saying a boy in my older dds has a high temp is waiting for a test. He put on fb that he's waiting for a test.

His brother is in my youngest dds class and has been in school as normal.

I don't know if does have symptoms or if he has something else.

Wwyd?? 2 different schools so not easy to report.

No, he shouldn’t be in school.

@Helenj1977

I want my kids in school for as long as possible. One parent is possibly being extremely selfish if he has got symptoms.

If they're at home for 2 weeks, that's 2 weeks learning they miss out on.

FWIW, the school should be immediately offering remote learning for anyone absent from school for reasons connected to Covid

www.gov.uk/government/publications/school-attendance/addendum-recording-attendance-in-relation-to-coronavirus-covid-19-during-the-2020-to-2021-academic-year#new-for-2020-to-2021--not-attending-in-circumstances-related-to-coronavirus-covid-19

Remote education

If a pupil is not attending school due to circumstances related to coronavirus (COVID-19), we expect schools to be able to immediately offer them access to remote education. Schools should keep a record of, and monitor engagement with this activity, but this does not need to be tracked in the attendance register.

@BunsyGirl How fucking dare you claim me to be uncaring! How bloody offensive are you? You're not the only fucking one who has lost someone since lockdown. Due to lockdown I missed several months of precious time with my beloved brother before he died.

My dad is terminally ill and could die anytime - I'm prevented from spending time with him at the moment, because others think they're kid needs a test, but can't be arsed to keep their kids home.

I'm very sorry that you for the losses you've suffered, but fon't excuse the ignorant, willfully spreading a potentially virus, with the lockdown that affected us all.

All parents have to face this, and I cannot believe that you think someone shouldn't isolate 'if' they, or someone in their house is displaying symptoms, by using suicide as an excuse.

It's not me that's uncaring.

@WishIWasSomewhereElse There are many people in this country that could die from a common cold. My mum was one of them. The whole World did not shut down for her and she would never have asked for it. She took her own sensible precautions to live as long as she could. She wanted her children and grandchildren to have a future and would have been horrified at the current situation. We are destroying the futures of our children. We have created a mental health epidemic and all people care about is “following the rules”. It’s not about “not being arsed”. It’s about putting food on the table, keeping a roof over your family’s head. Not everyone has the luxury of working from home, being paid if they take sick leave....have you ever lived on the bread line? Maybe these are not the reasons for the lack of isolation in this case, which is why I asked the questions in my original post? Did you answer them?

@BunsyGirl I apologise, my previous post was probably unecessarily harsh.

The point remains - comparing those you know who tragically committed suicide, and a mother who has a child with symptoms, requiring a test, but continuing to send her other DC to school, is not a fair, or accurate, comparison.

If the son does test positive, what will she do then?

I'm guessing you would condone her carrying on as normal? Not isolating her other DC? Because 'if' the reason she is continuing to flout the rules is due to being unable to cope, then it would apply if there was a positive test.

Staying home because someone in your house is symptomatic, is not the same as lockdown.

It is hard, it is fucking unfair, but those who flout now, increase the risk of lockdown again, and more suicides as a consequence.

@Batshitbeautycosmeticsltd

Oh, yes, snitching, it's all about safety.

Do people oppose 'snitching' for everything, including serious crimes, or is it just because they don't think covid matters?

I think if someone isn't following public health guidance in schools, that wants raising tbh.

You did absolutely the right thing to report it. It it totally unacceptable for the sibling or the child waiting for the test to be in school. Hopefully the parents aren’t in work too? This selfish behaviour is contributing to the spread. It may be that the parents need educating on the guidelines but most schools have been quite clear on the rules.

@BunsyGirl unlike you I AM on the breadline. My DC go to a state school (not independent like your DC do). My DC's school has been put into special measures - luckily your DC won't have to experience being in a failing school.

The parent I was referring to doesn't work - so no worries on that score.

I have also been hospitalised for suicidal attempts, and still have recurring MH problems.

At the moment we can't afford to pay the rent as we're unable to work till our results are back. We don't earn over £29k a year, like you and everyone you know. So yes I do fucking know hardship.

I"m also on high dose steroids as any cough leaves me struggling for air.

You're clearly not stupid, so I cannot understand why you can't seem to grasp the reality, that more people going to school with symptoms, risk the likelihood of a national lockdown?

This:

On the other hand, the OP may just have protected someone like my child, with underlying conditions, from dying due to the selfish action of this family.

It is a shit situation but that doesn’t make it ok to risk the rest of the class and their loved ones catching it or all having to self-isolate, thus compounding the shit.

Having said that I do think there is a system level problem around financial support and testing turnaround that urgently needs fixed,

I don’t blame anyone in a tough situation who felt they had to send their child in. But equally I don’t blame the OP for acting to keep the other children safe when someone broke the rules - I would do the same.

@DumplingsAndStew I had no idea of this, thank you.

Our school have offered no such thing. They have said that all schools have to have something in place for the end of September, in case school 'bubbles' need to isolate.

[quote WishIWasSomewhereElse]@DumplingsAndStew I had no idea of this, thank you.

Our school have offered no such thing. They have said that all schools have to have something in place for the end of September, in case school 'bubbles' need to isolate.[/quote]
You're welcome, I stumbled across that earlier today and found it interesting. Hopefully it helps some parents who are concerned about their children accessing education whilst isolating but well.

@WishIWasSomewhereElse Oooh been, checking me out have you! Absolutely pathetic. You know nothing about me and the fact that I have worked my arse off to get where I am and give my children a completely different childhood to the one I had. The free school meals kid who cried when she broke her shoe at school as she knew her parents couldn’t afford new ones.

Oh, and if it’s a competition, I tried to commit suicide when I was 16, so fucking miserable was my existence.

You assume that everyone I know earns more than £29k. Sweetheart, when my dad retired a couple of years ago, he earned £15k. That was the most he had ever earned. Typical reverse snobbery about people who privately educate their children.

I do care. I didn’t support the first lockdown going on as long as it did as I knew the consequences would outweigh the consequences. Was attached on Facebook when I supported a single mother friend who was finding things very tough. No, we can’t question staying at home, we should keep our mouths shut and bake cakes. I won’t be supporting any further lockdown either.

@BunsyGirl so if the child test's positive, the family don't need to isolate? The vulnerable they are willfully exposing don't matter?

I'd have some sympathy if she kept the symptoms quiet, but they got out.

I also wouldn't support a further lockdown. It's been catastrophic, emotionally, physically, financially and mentally.

But if it happens it eill because of the people YOU condone! You call me pathetic? Taje a good look in the mirror.

I apologise, in an earlier post I said you weren't stupid, I was wrong.

Nowhere have I said that people (or their direct contacts) shouldn’t isolate if they have a positive test. But we cannot have every child isolating because their sibling has cold symptoms. That’s ridiculous and it is soon going to bring the country to a standstill.

But he doesn’t have typical cold symptoms. It’s quite rare to have a fever with a cold.

Exactly @BunsyGirl

Nowhere have I said that people (or their direct contacts) shouldn’t isolate if they have a positive test. But we cannot have every child isolating because their sibling has cold symptoms. That’s ridiculous and it is soon going to bring the country to a standstill.

@BunsyGirl

I won’t be supporting any further lockdown either.

But your attitude, and those who play down Covid and treat like a cold make a lockdown more likely... That would be disastrous! It’s insanely counterproductive.

@Mychitchatdays

In our school only the child in question needs to isolate until results. Other family members can continue as normal.

That's not what the govt advise. If a child has potential COVID symptoms then the family isolate until you get a negative test.

@Batshitbeautycosmeticsltd

Oh, yes, snitching, it's all about safety.

It's not about bloody snitching. It's about saving lives!

Having said that I do think there is a system level problem around financial support and testing turnaround that urgently needs fixed

Agree with this, and the thing is government have refused to listen to all experts saying the cost of self-isolating to some families would make it impossible to secure high levels of compliance.

@DumplingsAndStew I didn't know that either! Thank you.

I'll update later when I hear anything. I'll be fuming if he gets a positive result...

@Helenj1977

You're welcome. I haven't read all the legislation so there may be a timescale related clause involved (I.e. have this ready to go by X date) but its certainly worth asking your school about.

I hope the child tests negative. It must be really concerning for everyone involved.

Well done op you did the right thing. A
Those accusing of snitching, what an ignorant selfish mindset.

He was off with a sickness bug.

The parent had already told him off for posting he was being tested. Both kids have been spoken to (and the parent).

Very glad but pissed off they worried people for no reason.

@DumplingsAndStew that's interesting. We have specifically had a letter from the acting minister for education saying there is no expectation for schools to provide any work at all for isolating pupils (Wales)