How many have deregistered to homeschool

Lockdownfatigue · 16/09/2020 12:15

My friend has.
I seriously considered it. And would in a heartbeat except that my dc don’t want to.

If I have to, I will. If there is a positive case in their school outside of their bubble they will be staying home regardless of bubbles.

covetingthepreciousthings · 16/09/2020 12:16

Tbh I've been considering this in the last week, we managed 4 days of DC being back and then we were all in bloody isolation, and took ages to get test result. Negative, now DC2 has symptoms so still
In isolation and can't get a test!

I'm so upset and frustrated, we don't want to have to be off work, or keep them off school but we are following the guidelines. I'm so worried that this in and out of schooling is actually going to do far more harm than it would just deregistering them and homeschooling them for the next year.

I'm worried about being unable to afford to keep isolating as well, I don't think I get paid unless the test results are positive.

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Kmx123 · 16/09/2020 12:26

Trouble with testing being unable to afford isolating and

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Kmx123 · 16/09/2020 12:27

@Kmx123

Trouble with testing being unable to afford isolating and

Threatening parents with fines surely people will just stop bothering with tests and carry on with day to day life and its worrying

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Bigkingdom · 16/09/2020 12:34

Why are the school insisting the siblings continue attending school? Does this not go against guidelines?! What Borough is this?

DownWhichOfLate · 16/09/2020 12:38

They won’t fine you. It takes a while to get to that point and involves lots of paperwork etc. It’s just a threat. Just keep them updated that your children won’t be in and you’ll be ok.

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Kmx123 · 16/09/2020 12:38

@Bigkingdom

Why are the school insisting the siblings continue attending school? Does this not go against guidelines?! What Borough is this?

Brent

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Keepdistance · 16/09/2020 12:44

No i would go to court.
And im taking BJ down with me!
I want my dc in school. Dc2 at least wants to be in school
We had 5-8d in school before dc1 had to have a test!'
People need to stop sending in ill children. It causes other kids a temp/cough.
Maybe 5d at home for any start of illness incl d&v would give more time for people to come out in all symptoms.
It is all really unfair on anyone with parents in the bubble hugging everyone/at the pub/soft play etc.
Or in a town centre.
People rurally might by lucky

Kattish · 16/09/2020 12:45

We withdrew our daughter just before the schools here went back (Scotland). It's not feasible for a lot of the families in her class but a lot of them have said they wished they could too.

We had bought her school uniform and everything ready to send her back 2 days and distance learning the other three days, when they changed the plan to full time school hours and full class sizes we decided to withdraw.

2020isnotbehaving · 16/09/2020 12:49

Siblings need to isolate if family member has symptoms. If the child is told to stay home because someone else in class had symptoms, only that child needs stay home (well and a parent).

Starlingbird · 16/09/2020 13:13

Not yet. It wouldn’t be necessary to deregister if parents were given a choice to teach at home. ‘Fines’ are really another way of saying children are kicked out of school and not the government’s problem anymore. Those with health vulnerabilities just aren’t going to have an education provided by the government. I am hoping the government will understand they’re probably going to be found to be breaking the law, and will say no attendance fines for now, like summer term.

Skyisbluetoday · 16/09/2020 13:33

Sorry, not what you asked but suggest to them to read the government guidelines. Your whole household now needs to isolate for 14 days unless you can secure a test for your daughter and it comes back negative. Good luck!

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Kmx123 · 16/09/2020 14:20

@Skyisbluetoday

Sorry, not what you asked but suggest to them to read the government guidelines. Your whole household now needs to isolate for 14 days unless you can secure a test for your daughter and it comes back negative. Good luck!

I have told them and it worries me as they was saying even with cough cold sore throat they can still come in if they dont have a temperature

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FreidaMind · 16/09/2020 14:24

I was delighted to send my child back full time. He’s been back just over a month (Scotland) and it’s all gone really well so far.

Mummyto3gorgeousgirlies · 16/09/2020 14:45

Your school are wrong and you should report them to the local authority. If someone in household has temp / cough / loss of taste or smell the whole household must isolate - our school have sent our full flow charts to ensure parents understand. At that point child with symptoms tests and if negative and well inself everyone can return to school / work etc... if can't get a test household must isolate for 14 days... really upsets me to read schools setting policies that contradict the governments rules

Msmcc1212 · 16/09/2020 15:09

This is depressing reading. Conflicting school advice. Threats of fines. 😔

Like PP said - fines come only after a long period of other intervention. They are there to protect vulnerable children from neglect not as a punishment or threat for parents making the best decisions they can in the midst of a global pandemic. Or at least that’s how it should be.

A cough is a symptom that requires isolation and testing.

Yes. I’ve considered HS and still would if things get more difficult.

40somethingJBJ · 16/09/2020 15:33

I’ve deregistered ds as I’m vulnerable and have an elderly parent who’s extremely vulnerable, so just not prepared to take the risk. Glad I did, as there’s been a confirmed case in his year already and they’ve been back less than 2 weeks. Ds works well from home and this is less disruptive than having to isolate and test every few weeks.

Starlingbird · 16/09/2020 15:39

Mummyto3gorgeousgirlies
“Your school are wrong and you should report them to the local authority.”

Agreed. Both for not following public health advice and for not following attendance law. Bullying parents with illegal threats is bad.

sunseekin · 16/09/2020 15:40

@Kmx123

My son went back last week and now has a cough and cold We cant get a test.I have been told to keep sending in siblings but i have not. School have emailed saying anyone that is off for 10 days or more will be reported to the local authority and expect to receive a fine surely this will just scare parents in to bring them in. Cases in the borough have doubled and several schools now have cases. How many of you and have any of you decided to deregister to homeschool ? There is no other option for vulnerable parents. Where is the consideration for the childs mental heath in all of this as kids are worried also

Exactly the same thoughts. Concern about kids mental health.

Plan on nicely reminding head that he does have discretion. The government can’t just overturn every piece of legislation there to protect the child.

Also plan on asking GP for help re mental health.

If I have to deregister I will write the letter as an offer and check that they research all my concerns thoroughly before removing me from the register.

No sign of fines yet in the press and I’m sure there will be uproar if that happens.

The whole situation is surreal. It’s obviously about herd immunity. It feels like whilst they can keep the death rate low they want to infect as many as they can. My feeling is that you should need consent for something like this! Feel so sad to live to be British right now.

sunseekin · 16/09/2020 15:43

Obviously nobody is allowed to query the airborne nature or bubble farces, but there are so many other angles. I recommend speaking to your head so he maybe feels freer to speak and then if no joy getting everything in writing to every relevant body.

The irony is at the end of this, long after the guidance has been updated 43456 times the only thing left will be the effects and damage to schools’ relationships with parents. And I don’t see the government taking responsibility, I imagine they’ll point to all the legislation and discretion that should have been used to protect our children’s and our own mental and physical health.

Frazzled2207 · 16/09/2020 15:47

i'm really surprised that school are saying this. Our school are quite clear that temp/fever/loss of taste or smell means 14 days off or until negative test. They definitely would not encourage early return and have not said anything about fines.
Although they have said that normal cold = send them in, they have also acknowledged the fact that people might be on the cautious side. Basically they know their attendance is going to be all over the place this year but aren't worried about it.

Starlingbird · 16/09/2020 15:54

The government are the ones breaking the law by failing to provide a safe education. They are the ones who should be prosecuted, not the parents.

Deregistrations just mean the children won’t have a school place to return to once it’s safe. I can see them being overturned, as really they are coercive. More unnecessary public money being spent sorting out another mess.

Worriedmum999 · 16/09/2020 15:58

I’m pretty sure schools won’t make it to half term before they get closed. And even if they do they won’t be back after half term. Most parents in the country aren’t going to be sending Their children to school when we are back to 1000 people dying a day...which we will be. Just ride it out. They won’t make it as far as fines being issued. Just keep having to isolate for a few weeks to buy you more time.

covetingthepreciousthings · 16/09/2020 16:02

The whole situation is surreal. It’s obviously about herd immunity. It feels like whilst they can keep the death rate low they want to infect as many as they can. My feeling is that you should need consent for something like this! Feel so sad to live to be British right now.

I feel similarly, it's very surreal, and back in Jan/ Feb no one would have believed it would have gone on this long.

sunseekin · 16/09/2020 16:03

@Starlingbird

The government are the ones breaking the law by failing to provide a safe education. They are the ones who should be prosecuted, not the parents.

Deregistrations just mean the children won’t have a school place to return to once it’s safe. I can see them being overturned, as really they are coercive. More unnecessary public money being spent sorting out another mess.

Exactly, thanks for posting this, we are being completely manipulated over this at the moment.