Teachers reprimanded

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So the problem with testing is that those pesky kids have been asking for too many tests.

And the problem with schools is that the wretched teachers keep getting coronavirus!

Despite the magic pixie dust that keeps schools safe!

Any problems are clearly their/ our fault despite the erm world beating blah blah of the government

#notateacher

Yes must be the teachers fault and nothing to do with being forced into an environment which isn't, despite what the government say, 'covid secure'.

Yep.
We've been told specially that we have to hold ourselves to a high professional standard and not break any covid rules....and even limit or avoid going to places we ARE legally allowed to go, in case of any risk.

And despite not really being able to do my job while staying 2m away from my kids becuase of a small classroom, inadequate ventilation and, you know, actually being required to help them physically with things or to get near them to look at their work and help them etc....we are required to stay 2m away so that if any of them get a positive test we adults can carry on going to school even if groups of the class are sent home to SI. And I say that as a clinically vulnerable adult. There's no consideration for that. Work from home where you can. I can't, so back you go and be careful now.

My class of 5 year olds have been breathing on my face, climbing onto my lap and holding my hand this week. I try to encourage them to keep their distance but it's just not happening. If they fall over, they need reassurance. When they are reading, they need me to see their books. They want to play with me. So I can't social distance from them. I'm OK with it as I love my job.

Yep. Nothing to do with aerosol transmission, no face coverings, inadequate ventilation and 180 different bodies per classroom, per day.

Bloody unprofessional teachers.

To be frank, it's pretty fucked up that the professionals looking after children, dealing with huge mental health issues, educating them above and beyond the call of duty in extremely hard circumstances, putting their own health and their own families' health at risk are being reprimanded for, well, just getting on with life.

Yep. Clearly it's irrelevant that the little darlings don't keep away from us at all. It's our fault that they cannot control their natural instincts and want to be near adults they trust. Bless them with their trust and their germs...

Then you have the joy of teachers whose own children have to isolate being told off by their bosses as they are then 'letting the school down ' by having to self isolate. You actually couldn't make this shit up! I know if one teacher who was told that might have to choose between being a parent and her job if her child had to isolate. Heads are not taking the welfare of their staff/their families seriously at all.

the obsessive constant new appearance of teachers+covid+schools threads on MN makes me wonder if they are all being posted by some hysteric with an Agenda. #Can'tPressHideFastEnough

Or it could just be because we'll-educated, intelligent people can see a mile off when they're being lied to and don't like working in a very unsafe environment.

Just a thought...

well-educated

the obsessive constant new appearance of teachers+covid+schools threads on MN makes me wonder if they are all being posted by some hysteric with an Agenda.
I don't see that it's hysterical to complain that you're being required to work in an environment which brings you close to hundreds of people in a pandemic with no social distancing or PPE. What is your agenda @lljkk given that you felt the need to post a snide comment rather than just scroll on by?

Fucking hell this makes me cross. I'm not a teacher. They're being scapegoated whilst literally risking their lives daily, and working their bollocks off to boot. AND are being derided for catching a known highly contagious virus when forced to work in circumstances that pretty much make it inevitable through no choice whatsoever of their own. My DS caught a nasty cold on his THIRD day back at school, in a setting where they are actually managing social distancing pretty well. What hope has an adult got against COVID in much less favourable circumstances (ie no chance of social distancing, no PPE, unventilated small classrooms with a ton of people for a sustained amount of time)?! I can't believe that people are accepting the ludicrous notion that kids don't spread it. They might not suffer it as badly as adults, but there are LOADS of cases of kids getting it. Why would the virus not be transmissible from small human to a big one? They're the same species ffs.

@morethanmeetstheeye agree on the lack of understanding on own children isolating.......
"we can't afford for anyone to isolate". Well excuse me for inventing a pandemic to get out of work ffs.

Yes, the worst thing about teachers’ working conditions is indeed the number of threads it is generating.

I thought this was about the virus spreading between adults due to not SD from each other in schools?

I’d expect to be reprimanded if I didn’t follow my employers rules on SD and that led to me catching/spreading the virus.

That, Madame would be because you don’t understand the conditions teachers are currently working under.

If guidelines are impossible to follow, then the fault doesn’t lie with the people not following them when they are not followed.

ultimately you don’t know the circumstances here any better than anyone else. I know people on MN see teachers as sainted beings that never put a foot wrong. We’ve been under local restrictions here and my neighbour who is a headteacher has been breaking the rules, if she’s done that at home it’s not beyond the realms of possibility her/other teachers have done so at school.

No one expects teachers or anyone to be perfect but take it on the chin when you get caught out not following the rules instead of moaning.

We don’t have enough testing and a huge number of children are known to be asymptomatic or have mild symptoms.

It seems grossly wrong to assume teachers are passing it to each other in the few minutes they may see each other at a distance rather than in the classrooms they occupy all day with no distancing.

With no testing it is also an unscientific assumption.

I say this as a parent who is not a teacher.

Some schools are obviously managing better than others. Im in Sctland schools back for a month . Dont want to jinx it but we dont have any school years isolating yet. I'm in a city so it's not small schools.

When do we start clapping again?

Madame The article says that staffrooms and meetings are to blame, not illegal raves.

And CV can be transmitted in those circumstances without SD measures being broken.

In my school no staff have been anywhere near each other. All meetings have been done online. We have had to isolate two separate groups of children and one teacher has since tested positive after being in the same unmasked environment as a positive-testing child.

Children absolutely pass this on.
Teachers are getting sick.
There are many clinically vulnerable teachers who being left unprotected as since shielding stopped the government have somehow deemed it safe for them to return, unmasked and unprotected, to a workplace where none else is 'allowed' to wear masks. It's disgraceful.

They're blaming staff rooms but that's impossible to prove. Young adults and teenagers are more likely to be asymptomatic / have mild symptoms to the point of not even noticing. Tell me how they know teachers are speeding it amongst themselves and not catching it from pupils?

Whole thing is a fucking joke.

@MadameBlobby I follow the rules all day long. Despite this, I spend six hours per week in an enclosed classroom with 30 young adults (17-18) and what we have to protect each other are three windows that open to a three inch gap.

@MadameBlobby Well our staff room isn't open, so it can't be that. And we have meetings spaced out 5 time better than we do the students, as we are having meetings of 6 in a classroom that usually holds 32. So if my 18 year old students don't spread it like that, then 5 times less people should be totally safe. If a member of staff is coming towards you on the corridor, you step away and wait... I don't know what else we could do. We are in GM so we are following lockdown rules but still have staff needing to be tested.

Maybe, just maybe, the 26 A level students I spent 2 hours with on Friday, followed by the 21 BTEC students for another 2 hours, might have something to do with spreading a virus. Or is it the fact that I went to the toilet after another memebr of staff? We only have 2 staff toilet blocks, so that is going to have to happen, or I'll be pissing in the yard.

Teachers are also single handedly responsible for global warming, air pollution, the rising cost of cucumbers, smelly farts and the election of Donald Trump.

Just so we can move on without having to have threads about them too.

It's pretty obvious that teachers are to blame for everything. Not the government nor parents nor anyone else.