To think a second lockdown will not happen even if cases explode

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A second lockdown is not economically feasible. Businesses that barely survived the first one will be killed off. The economy would collapse.

On top of that disruption from No Deal and a second lockdown would push things to the brink. I’m not a sociologist but a second lockdown would likely cause some form of social unrest.

I just don’t see it happening does anyone agree?

I think they’ll try to have a million little local lockdowns to try to lie to us that it is not “A LOCKDOWN”

@midgebabe

It's not what they want but they have made it clear it could happen again

What happens when the hospitals are full? When the french blockade the ports because they don't want truckers importing infections from the UK?

This - you can't absolutely rule one out, even though no one wants it.

I think even if they try to introduce another national lockdown, it won't be adhered to as well or as long as the last one. A lot of people have got lockdown burn out. A lot of people weren't sticking to the last one.

I'm sure I read a news article that said lockdown was actually more effective than the government had expected because more people stayed home, WFH etc than the government had expected to.

It's the very last thing they would want to do by a very long stretch. But if every other option is exhausted I'm not sure what the alternative would be.

The government will be well aware that allowing the virus to progress unchecked creates a different but potentially even more horrific situation. This is rock v hard place territory.

Another point nobody has mentioned is that if attempts are made to introduce a national lockdown and people don't comply, the government are going to lose a lot of face. They will be aware that there's a great deal less trust in them now than there was in March, and will not want to risk looking impotent.

I agree in principle fencer but whilst compliance is difficult now while so many can't see the problem, if things start to get worse and the death rate starts ramping up fear could improve compliance.

@frozendaisy * I think part/most of the reason the government will not go second full-fat lockdown is that they don't want to finance it *

The government don’t pay for it out of their own pockets you know? We’re all going to pay for it for generations to come. A second lockdown would be devastating.

I can’t see it happening unless as an absolute last resort and if it does, it definitely won’t be like last time -i.e no furlough scheme as we can’t afford it. Wonder how many people would be complying then?

@Randominternetbitch

I can’t see it happening unless as an absolute last resort and if it does, it definitely won’t be like last time -i.e no furlough scheme as we can’t afford it. Wonder how many people would be complying then?

Many fewer, for better or for worse, and this goes to the point about losing face.

No one can afford another lockdown.

I think there will be one if cases and ICU/hospital admissions warrant it.

I think part/most of the reason the government will not go second full-fat lockdown is that they don't want to finance it

They can't afford it. Their ability to borrow is going down the swanny now no deal Brexit is looking like the great likelihood and the currency will be devalued after it, making it harder to service our debt.

I don’t think there will be no

I very much hope not

Socialisation rules will be restricted first

@SunbathingDragon

I think there will be one if cases and ICU/hospital admissions warrant it.

I definitely think there will be more local lockdowns in that scenario. But we're likely to continue to see a lot of variation in rates by area.

A second lockdown should 100% be avoidable.

Unfortunately so many are doing their own risk assessments and using their 'common sense so i think the chances of it being needed are pretty high.

I really hope I'm wrong as I think what we have got just now is manageable. We can still.l do many things but with some restrictions.

@OpenlyGayExOlympicFencer there will be variation in areas I agree but ultimately if the hospital beds in one area are full, patients will be moved to where beds are available. It could result in many ill people being far away from home as it’s the only way of getting treatment and that could start to increase numbers in the areas they go to.

I very much hope we don’t have another national lockdown and I do think it’s up to the public to do what the can to prevent it. However, I appreciate there is the argument for the economy’s survival and our national debt as well.

I don't think people from Area A with a high rate being moved to beds in Area B with a low rate is going to lead to area B getting locked down simply on that basis.

I think it hinges on if we can protect the care home sector and prevent infections spreading through hospitals. If we can I would guess we can struggle on for a few more months.

I suspect we won't get a nationwide 'don't meet anyone outside your household at all' lockdown again, although there may be short term ones in areas that are peaking.