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Moonshot or Pie in the Sky?

56 replies

Snog · 10/09/2020 12:27

Does Boris's so called moonshot plan have any real credibility?
Or am I right to dismiss it as moonshit?

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ChanceChanceChance · 10/09/2020 21:58

All these big ideas when they can't get ordinary testing right, it's very draining.

I just want ordinary competent government. Couldn't give a stuff which party right now, although starmer sure looks reassuringly sensible at the moment.

MaxNormal · 10/09/2020 22:01

thecatsatonthewall actually Kay Burley has been relatively good, and Julia Hartley Brewer positively savage. But the BBC.... Angry

CrunchyCarrot · 10/09/2020 22:13

Moonshite. They are barking mad, and going to waste taxpayers' money. Plus if they do actually succeed what's the bet it'll be after Covid-19 has been banished to the history books?

FarTooSkinny · 11/09/2020 00:19

@LearnedResponse

Everyone agrees that (in the absence of a strong vaccine) testing on a huge scale is the most feasible way to get this situation under long term control.

Totally disagree with this. The problem with mass testing of a large population is false positives. If, for example, the test is accurate 90% of the time, then for every 1m people you test who are not infected then 100,000 will get a false positive.

You need effective testing closely aligned with robust contact tracing. So you are only testing those that have a strong probability of being infected. That brings down the false positives significantly. Unfortunately track and trace is a total shambles

TheLastStarfighter · 11/09/2020 02:38

@FarTooSkinny false positives are very, very easy to deal with. You test positives again. Then in your 90% specificity example You are left with only 1,000 false positives out of your million. So you improve your 90% to 99%.

Although IIRC current testing is over 99% specificity on first test anyway

So first test negative = negative and no further test needed
First test positive and second negative = negative
Two positives = positive

It gets more complicated in reality taking false negatives into account, but it’s close enough for illustrative purposes.

wherestheotherone · 11/09/2020 03:09

All in his little mind. Track and trace has failed. Testing is now also failing. Shortly there will be more children isolated than at school.

It's a load of shit.

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