Will there come a point where we have to just get on and live with coronavirus

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Heard on the news about the possibility of a side effect from the much hoped for vaccination. I’ve started to wonder if there’s going to come a time when we’re going to have to accept people are going to become ill, die and possibly have side effects from coronavirus but we need to work, educate and live. We will in effect have to get back to normal with coronavirus being accepted as something else we can become ill with or die from as we accept other illnesses.

I think that's where we are right now. This is what living with it looks like.

I disagree. Schools cannot shut for 2 weeks every time on child has coronavirus its just not going to work.

What do you think that would look like then?

Yes, for sure. We can’t sustain this.

Measures that can be implemented at little cost (mask wearing, SD where possible) should/will be kept.

But all our energies should go into better testing, better treatments, more general focus on immunity and health rather than shutting everything down.

I'm not aware of while schools closing for two weeks because of one case. Certainly that isn't the guidance in Scotland.

Yes. It's now.

I hope so. Imo a vaccine is at least a year off and even if/when we do get one, it's likely there wont be enough uptake for it to be effective.

Yes, but that time is not now. When is anybodies guess.

No.

@IncludeWomenInTheSequel

I think that's where we are right now. This is what living with it looks like.

I agree, this is it. We're still muddling through and learning what we can and can't get away with. Its not great but we all have to try and make the best of it. Set new goals for yourself, find new pleasures. It won't be forever as their will eventually be a vaccine and better treatments or the virus will gradually mutate to a less serious strain as happens with most of these things.

Try not to feel defeated by the current situation.

I thought so, but no. Apparently we're going to be in this ridiculous groundhog situation forever.

I truly hope we are never at the point where we think it's ok if elderly and vulnerable die as long we we personally are comfortable.

well according to Boris, once we have mass testing those who get a 'freedom pass' will be able to return to some kind of normality

1984 here we come

I think that's what we are doing now.
Some countries are better at it than others though.
I'm English - live here/work here but have just spent 5 days in Edinburgh and the difference in attitudes for one is massive.
No pub, bar, restaurant or cafe allowed us in without proving we had signed up to the track and trace. The staff were making sure people wore the masks properly - none of this dangling from your chin or your nose hanging out bollocks.
Here even in enclosed spaces like supermarkets, on public transport and even my own workplace (non essential retail) people just aren't arsed and flout the rules and totally have very little basic common sense. At work we try to do track and trace but if customers say no then that's that, they can still enter!
I felt way safer in Scotland than I do here.
It's crazy!

@PinkLegoBrick

I truly hope we are never at the point where we think it's ok if elderly and vulnerable die as long we we personally are comfortable.

THIS EXACTLY !!

The problem is, any level of government control and suppression of people (whether it is justified or not) can not be sustained.

Certain groups suffer more harshly under this current way of living - people losing jobs etc.

Eventually civil unrest is an absolute certainty unless something changes. The current way of life is not sustainable long term

@PinkLegoBrick

I truly hope we are never at the point where we think it's ok if elderly and vulnerable die as long we we personally are comfortable.

But you are comfortable to have extended lockdown where suicide rates have doubled, young mums are found dead in thier flats from lack of food, good banks can’t keep up with demand, the 1000s and 1000s of upcoming redundancies are going to lead to more deaths as well. At what point do the scales tip from more lives being lost due to lockdown than being lost to Covid? Who’s loves do we choose?

Do we sacrifice the educational, social and emotional needs of the young for the elderly and vulnerable? It’s ok for now and for a few more months I suppose but they can’t go on like this for the next few years in and out of school, unable to mix outside of school, no job prospects, exam fiascos etc).

I mean its not as if a trashed economy, a perpetual semi-lockdown, eye-watering levels of government debt, truncated education, the indefinite suspension of civil liberties, the complete disregard for mental health & just about any non-Covid physical health and just the bloody endless social isolation will have any negative consequences of vulnerable people is it? They'll be fine, because 'vulnerable-to-Covid' is the only type of 'vulnerable' ever in the world apparently. Some people are utterly incapable of grasping trade offs or holding more than one thought in their head at a time.

I don’t think the vaccine is out yet?

But things would still improve

I agree the school situation needs to be reassessed. Closing classes on one case isn’t great

Out of action I mean not out in circulation

Not if the government get their way it would seem

Government debt ??

Bullshit .. how much is spent on trident ?? That will never be used .. how much had been saved by not paying state pension , Employment support allowance, personal independence payment , and housing for 45k people for 5 years more than they should have lived ? Not to mention the 20 years many with 'susceptibility would have lived without Covid.. you obviously haven't had a poorly bit otherwise OK family member die !!!

Does no one understand that killing off the elderly saves £££££ not to mention the thorny issue of 'social care' ..