Should we self isolate ?

[sosew]

So the flat mate of our childminder has a fever and is going to be tested. If I read the guidance that means our child minder needs to self isolate until at lest the test results (or longer of positive)?

However we only need to self isolate if we are contacted through track and trace if I read the guidelines correctly ? Obviously she has had extensive non socially distances contact with our kids so I feel like we shouldn't send kids to school ? But the guidance seems to be that we should....

the guidelines are your chikdren will need to self isolate if the test comes back positive. You will if you are a close contact of the flat mate.

I wonder why the flatmate had so much contact. Didn't they have their own life to live?
Track & Trace will tell you if you need to self-isolate.

It's her best friend - childminder comes to us and we have no contact with flat mate. I think technically we could send kids to school if and until
Contact by track and track but that seems to increase the risk to the rest of the school as the kids have obviously had lots of contact with our childminder so it doesn't seem to make sense to wait until we are contacted. But gutted re kids it's a really important year for both kids this year and we're not even a week in.

they have probably had a lot of contact because the children are in their home.

so it's a nanny rather than a childminder?

Then no one needs to self isolate unless the nanny tests positive because you have had no contact with the flat mate.

Ok I would love to not have to self isolate BUT nanny/ childminder has lots of contact with her flat mate and lots of contact with our kids which isn't socially distanced. That's all fine and I am happy we are not breaching anything, but in terms of contact we would have to self isolate if we were in a "support bubble" and I can't see how our situation is any different.

Had your Nanny got any symptoms? You don't need to isolate if you know someone who knows someone who has symptoms and at our school would not count

Contacts of contacts don’t have to isolate. Only if your childminder develops symptoms or your children have been in contact with the flat are directly according to close contact criteria.

Recent SAGE view was that transmission rate within homes when someone is symptomatic is 30%. So there's a 30% chance the nanny has it IF her flatmate had symptoms, & a

Thanks @MedSchoolRat that's super interesting and helpful.

I guess what worries me is that we are no different to social bubbles in terms of contact and both households in that scenario would need to isolate. We've spoken to the school and they have also confirmed we can come in but I just don't want to be that person who wipes out a class for two weeks for everyone. So we've made the call for now to await her test.

You should definitely quarantine yourselves at home. So no leaving the house unless you have a garden. No social contact and get shopping delivered.

@sosew

Thanks *@MedSchoolRat* that's super interesting and helpful.

I guess what worries me is that we are no different to social bubbles in terms of contact and both households in that scenario would need to isolate. We've spoken to the school and they have also confirmed we can come in but I just don't want to be that person who wipes out a class for two weeks for everyone. So we've made the call for now to await her test.

The difference between you and a bubble is you aren't in contact with the flatmate. If your family and the flat were a bubble you'd have direct contact with the flatmate.

I actually don't get where the ripple stops.

So- if a child in a class is being tested do all children and their families self isolate too?

You should definitely quarantine yourselves at home. So no leaving the house unless you have a garden. No social contact and get shopping delivered.

Based on what official guidelines? Secondary contacts don’t have to isolate.

So- if a child in a class is being tested do all children and their families self isolate too?

No they don’t.

By ops logic yes. I'm reality no.

If Bob is waiting to be tested, he and his family stay home. School continues as normal. If Bob is positive the whole class is out but the parents and siblings don't isolate unless their child b comes symptomatic.

Otherwise Bob would have Corona and close yr 1 so Carl would be off and his sister Jo in yr 2 and because Jo and Bob live together Jo would close yr 2, and Derek who is on it 1 with a brother in yr 3 would close yr 3 etc. They'd basically have to close entire schools for a positive test.

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You should definitely quarantine yourselves at home. So no leaving the house unless you have a garden. No social contact and get shopping delivered.

They haven't been in contact with anyone with symptoms and have no symptoms. On what basis would they isolate?

[quote MedSchoolRat]Recent SAGE view was that transmission rate within homes when someone is symptomatic is 30%. So there's a 30% chance the nanny has it IF her flatmate had symptoms, & a

Thanks this is really reassuring, we have gone down the isolation route for now just out of an abundance of caution and are going to pay for a private test for the flat mate. One of my DC is in reception and I just couldn't bear to be the one to transmit it !