Matt Hancock finally starts telling the truth

[jomartin281271]

This is an extract from an interview Matt Hancock gave on Radio 1 this morning, when he was reacting to the sharp increase in reported cases.

The health secretary stressed how serious coronavirus can be for young people, even though they are less likely to die or get seriously ill.
"Long Covid is really serious. And people can be in a bad way for months and months and months," he says.
"The second really important message is that younger people spread the disease, even if they don't have symptoms.
"Don't kill your gran by catching coronavirus and then passing it on. And you can pass it on before you've had any symptoms at all."

And now that schools have opened the number of cases has rocketed and children are unwittingly bringing the virus back into their homes, possibly infecting older members of their family. Isn't it about time we had some joined up thinking from this government. It's only a week ago that Gavin Williamson and Boris Johnson were telling us that young people were almost immune.

Part time school isn’t that great, especially if you factor in KW etc provision. It ends up being too limited. Plus the two sectors will widen.

@ChanceChanceChance being at school full time is best for my DS. He will not engage at home, blended learning wouldn't be good for him. So it's not necessarily "best for kids." There are so many different factors.

That's great. So .. following the science .. what exactly are the stats on long covid and the young?

Or could it be ... a load of crap trying to scare the young into social distancing?

I'm sure he'll happily follow up with a link to the science on his claims

@MarshaBradyo

Part time school isn’t that great, especially if you factor in KW etc provision. It ends up being too limited. Plus the two sectors will widen.

I think that'll widen when state schools starting shutting-opening-shutting-opening tbh.

Those kids in Liverpool are on blended learning already - one day in followed by 14 days at home!!

@MorrisZapp

Blended learning is a non starter. They threatened us with it in Scotland and the outrage from parents provoked a swift and sharp u turn from the education secretary.

Blended learning is hopeless for working parents and in my view should be avoided completely.

The outrage from a very small group of parents you mean..

The government have found that their previous bullying tactic to get the young to think about elderly relatives was no longer preventing them from doing things, so have moved on to a new bullying tactic of misleading the young as to how severe the virus will be if they catch it. Unfortunately the government, much like the country as a whole (including the majority of people on this site), have an irrational dislike of the generation aged 15-30 and are unwilling to treat them with respect.

@ChanceChanceChance, I was quoting someone, but i can't find that now, annoyingly

oh i was quoting @Clutterbugsmum

By the time the school provided childcare to all those that needed it, not even the classes who were meant to could go back.

If you discount everyone who needs ft cc then it would be easier but no more KW provision.

By young people he's probably talking about 18-29 year olds. If you look at the statistics, the highest numbers of people infected by far are in this age group now. Not children.

yes, i believe it is those in their 20s.
no longer willing to sacrifice their life styles

they need to stay away from the vulnerable.

He specifically mentioned age 17-21. Some of this age group is still at school “it’s safe for pupils to return to school, no need for masks or social distancing etc” they said.

@halcyondays

He specifically mentioned age 17-21. Some of this age group is still at school “it’s safe for pupils to return to school, no need for masks or social distancing etc” they said.

And in huge bubbles and lots of staff not to mention previously shielding people.

Long Covid is no different to any other post viral syndrome.

@Tomatoesneedtoripen
Maybe that's because people in their 20s have been asked to make the biggest sacrifices for one of the smallest levels of risk.
It simply isn't sustainable to ask young adults to keep their life on hold, watching their career prospects go down the drain, while telling them they will have to pay higher taxes if they ever manage to get a job.

@Treesofwood

Long Covid is no different to any other post viral syndrome.

That's not what doctors are saying. It's really not.

I agree @StatisticalSense

Why not allow options, where the option doesn't hurt anyone else?

If there is a problem with kids vulnerable to abuse not coming to school, then you could say that kids with a Child Protection Plan or a Team Around the Family had to have a specific plan about this with social services.

Bonkers to add to the pile of dead just to encourage les autres.

which is why they need to stay away from the vulnerable, and vice versa.

Christmas is going to be very tough for the vulnerable

Here I may have missed it but have you spoken to your school? Ours says to speak to them directly if you are cv. I’m not sure if they make allowances but they are not saying you must attend afaik (ours that is, yours may be different)

Chancechancechance I am not talking about the post thrombosis type recovery, or post ICU. I'm talking about the people who often had unconfirmed covid and are now suffering from fatigue, aches, etc. If they hadn't had the possible covid, it would be CFS or poss fybromyalgia.

[quote StatisticalSense]@Tomatoesneedtoripen
Maybe that's because people in their 20s have been asked to make the biggest sacrifices for one of the smallest levels of risk.
It simply isn't sustainable to ask young adults to keep their life on hold, watching their career prospects go down the drain, while telling them they will have to pay higher taxes if they ever manage to get a job.[/quote]
We should be erm helping these young people to get work. By giving them jobs in the hospitals and the schools (with a DBS check).

Then sponsor them. Sponsor them to become teachers. And pay them a reasonable amount. Sponsor them to become nurses or doctors or radiographers. Give them a future and start training them up to be the professionals we need.

I like food, and come from a family of cooks, but this would be a better use of money than subsidising burgers.

@herecomesthsun the problem is the children who aren't already on plans. School is usually where any suspicions of neglect or abuse is picked up. If these children aren't in school this scenarios won't get picked up on x

@MarshaBradyo

Here I may have missed it but have you spoken to your school? Ours says to speak to them directly if you are cv. I’m not sure if they make allowances but they are not saying you must attend afaik (ours that is, yours may be different)

They wouldn't give us authorised leave. So DC went in today, to say hello to the new teachers. There was an assembly that involved hundreds of kids. We are thinking about where we go from here.