Do people actually realise how few are dying from coronavirus now?

[Mrschickpeabody]

It’s all still doom and gloom on the news as normal regarding coronavirus. Loads about cases going up, local lockdowns, negativity regarding schools going back but nothing about the fact that hardly anyone is actually dying from coronavirus or being admitted to hospital. Can we not hear about positive things for once?

[Devlesko]

It's terrible, I know.
People have us lockdown again before kids are even back.
We only hear of an increase of cases now there is more testing and I'm glad the deaths have almost gone.

[megletthesecond]

Yes.
Do you realise schools aren't back yet? Still no large gatherings, huge numbers working from home?

[Jaichangecentfoisdenom]

I've never seen anything so stupid as "scamdemic". Talk about Covidiocy. Coronavirus is a real thing. It's happening. People are dying early from it. People are suffering terrible after-effects of it, even if they don't die from it. It is real. It exists. Don't behave as if it's fictitious. Even if you or your loved ones are not affected by your stupidity, you might inadvertently lead to others dying because of your lack of respect and carelessness towards the general population. That's just plain nasty.

[SockYarn]

I don't think anyone's saying that it's a hoax, or that it doesn't exist? I know it exists, I know people who had it back in March.

I also know what exponential growth is, and it's not happening at the moment. Cases are very low.

But I also think that for the overwhelming majority of people who get it, it's not a big deal. Few days feeling crap. Couple of weeks if you're unlucky. But nearly everyone makes a full recovery and has no long-lasting effects.

Going forward, now that we understand the risk factors, we need to keep social distancing in place in settings like care homes, hospitals, cancer care settings. Keep up with the hand washing and a generally better level of awareness about hygiene.

But ditch a lot of the rest of the quite ridiculous rules like no getting changed for PE at school, quarantining charity shop donations for 72 hours, counting people in and out of shops, masks except in medical settings or on public transport.

[confusedandeatingcheese]

@Gurtcha

When was the nhs ever under breaking strain?

This is the dumbest comment I have ever read on MN. There should be a medal for this.

I agree 🥇

[doubleshotespresso]

@CherryPavlova

You do realise most people aren't counted in figures as majority die after 28 days when their deaths are discounted?

This 🤞🏻
In spades

[FizzAfterSix]

@Jaichangecentfoisdenom the collateral damage caused by lockdown and the endless erosion of our freedoms will be far worse.

I have lost 2 friends to suicide and 5 women a week were killed during lockdown by their partners. To say nothing of those who suffered agonising medical and dental problems that could not be seen to, the missed cancer diagnoses and children from disadvantaged backgrounds who will NEVER catch up on their education.

So please take your lockdown bedwetting elsewhere as I am furious about all this pointless suffering.

[Jaichangecentfoisdenom]

@FizzAfterSix - as I am furious about all this unnecessary spreading of a deadly virus. I completely take your points, but feel there needs to be a middle way, we need to respect everyone here. It is an absolutely appalling global situation, there is no doubt about it. I have no solution and unfortunately am of an age where bedwetting is a reality, but I would still rather not die on my own from Coronavirus which I might catch because of others' selfishness.

[walksen]

"pointless suffering"

I don't doubt some people are suffering but it's not pointless is it? We are "controlling the virus" and "saving lives". Otherwise there'd be even more people suffering wouldn't there?

Does covid related suffering not count or something?

[MH1111]

Couldn’t agree more fizzaftersix.

We will look back on lockdown as a huge mistake, costing far more lives in the long term.

[FizzAfterSix]

Denying the dying visits from loved ones in their final moments comes under ‘pointless suffering’ to me, anyway.

[HappyTuesdays]

I agree op. Covid isn't such a big deal.

[Jaichangecentfoisdenom]

@MH1111 - look at Norway and compare it with Sweden and the UK. Then think again.

[MH1111]

Jaichangecentfoisdenom

Sweden has got it right, sensible social distanced measures not a full lockdown.
They have had no more deaths drastically than countries that have locked down.

Look at Spain and France that had severe lockdowns.......Covid infection rates are much higher than the Uk and Sweden.

All a lockdown does is slow, not stop a virus...

[blarrr]

It's pointless to argue about this. Some people don't care much about Coronavirus, because they think it won't affect them. Others are terrified, because they think or know they would not survive it. The two groups can't really see it from each others' perspectives.

Did the government over-react and was all of this all necessary? We will never know what would have happened if they hadn't put the precautions in place. We don't know how the virus would have spread and how many would have died. We can't compare those figures with the numbers that may now suffer because they are adversely affected by the lockdown.

The government had little choice anyway. The international community was putting a huge pressure on all countries to follow suit.

[Derbygerbil]

It’s great that deaths are so much lower than they were.... but why are some people determined to push us back to how things were back in March by pretending it’s all over. Lockdown was shit... I really don’t want to go back to it. I makes no sense to agitate for something that will achieve the opposite of what you want.

[itsgettingweird]

@Derbygerbil

It’s great that deaths are so much lower than they were.... but why are some people determined to push us back to how things were back in March by pretending it’s all over. Lockdown was shit... I really don’t want to go back to it. I makes no sense to agitate for something that will achieve the opposite of what you want.

This

[Jaichangecentfoisdenom]

@MH1111 - apparently you're not looking at the same figures I am.
www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

[inaspin12]

Many more people will die due to the lockdown and the measures than the virus itself. How is that intelligent?

[Tootletum]

OP you're wasting your breath here, full of terribly intelligent people. Follow @malkusm on twitter for interesting stats.

[Devlesko]

worldometers isn't reliable data, lol.

[Jaichangecentfoisdenom]

@blarrr - you're not wrong. I see no solution. But I do wish I saw respect for others by social distancing, wearing masks, and hand-washing, being treated the as the norm in the present situation.

[Jaichangecentfoisdenom]

@Devlesko

worldometers isn't reliable data, lol.

What is then, lol?

[ScarletMouse]

@Mrschickpeabody

I suddenly realised that they’re quarantining people from Portugal because cases are 20 per 100,000. It’s crazy 0.02%. You’d think it was ripping through the island killing everyone the way they’re reporting it.

It's not surprising you have difficulty understanding the public health response judging by this comment...

[Redolent]

@MH1111

Jaichangecentfoisdenom

Sweden has got it right, sensible social distanced measures not a full lockdown.
They have had no more deaths drastically than countries that have locked down.

Look at Spain and France that had severe lockdowns.......Covid infection rates are much higher than the Uk and Sweden.

All a lockdown does is slow, not stop a virus...

Sweden has told all over 70s to not meet others indoors (walks are OK). Try to see how that will fly here.