Children locked away taken from parents

Pixel7777 · 2020-09-02T14:54:36+00:00

[[https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/02/children-locked-up-by-parents-over-covid-should-not-go-home-rules-swedish-court]] I agree this is basically abusive. How many children in other countries much have had similar?

AgentCooper · 02/09/2020 15:58

Fucking hell. Those poor children.

fishywaters · 02/09/2020 16:00

Difficult to judge by that article alone. It talks about cultural differences. In many other countries lockdown was much harsher and kids did not leave the house and it specifically states the parents were from such a culture. We have seen it in my children's school as well - kids from certain cultures did not go back in June because the parents were talking to their own friends back home and trusted their original governments more. It really depends how the parents treated the children whilst they were "locked" up.

fishywaters · 02/09/2020 16:03

"Unlike many other countries, Sweden closed schools for the over-16s but kept those for younger pupils open and insisted on full attendance. Families, including those in high-risk groups, were reported to social services and faced fines for keeping their children at home." Many people in the UK would not have been happy with that either!

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Pixel7777 · 02/09/2020 16:04

It really depends how the parents treated the children whilst they were "locked" up

I can't believe people are excusing this behaviour.

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Kaktus · 02/09/2020 16:07

@fishywaters

Difficult to judge by that article alone. It talks about cultural differences. In many other countries lockdown was much harsher and kids did not leave the house and it specifically states the parents were from such a culture. We have seen it in my children's school as well - kids from certain cultures did not go back in June because the parents were talking to their own friends back home and trusted their original governments more. It really depends how the parents treated the children whilst they were "locked" up.

Are you genuinely excusing locking kids into a house, with the door nailed shut, for 5 months? Fucking hell.

Jrobhatch29 · 02/09/2020 16:07

@Pixel7777

It really depends how the parents treated the children whilst they were "locked" up

I can't believe people are excusing this behaviour.

Unbelievable lol. It says they were even isolated from each other. Bloody awful. Jo wonder they've been removed from the home

NotSuchASmugMarriedNow1 · 02/09/2020 16:09

I wonder how it was brought to the attention of social services?

Tootletum · 02/09/2020 16:10

Well Spain locked all children up in flats with no garden for two months. And everyone seems to think that's fine. Whole thing brings out the absolute worst in people, following the science my arse.

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Pixel7777 · 02/09/2020 16:10

Mind you, with the dismissal of mental health due to lockdown on here at times I guess i should have guessed there might be responses like that

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Kaktus · 02/09/2020 16:12

@Tootletum

Well Spain locked all children up in flats with no garden for two months. And everyone seems to think that's fine. Whole thing brings out the absolute worst in people, following the science my arse.

I bloody don’t think it’s fine. My family are in Spain and a young family member suffered hugely psychologically from being stuck in a one bedroom flat for weeks and weeks.

MidnightCitrus · 02/09/2020 16:14

@Tootletum

Well Spain locked all children up in flats with no garden for two months. And everyone seems to think that's fine. Whole thing brings out the absolute worst in people, following the science my arse.

Whose door was “nailed shut with planks”, and also kept isolated from each other,

No its not fine, its a bloody nightmare

fishywaters · 02/09/2020 16:19

I am not excusing any behaviour. My point was about cultural differences and yes, what happened with children in Spain and India and many other countries. Parents were told to not let their children leave the house, let alone go to school. For immigrants, the situation might have been very confusing, especially if they do not speak the language well. But then again, they could just be abusive parents. Or parents driven to paranoia temporarily by Corona. You do not know the parents fears or situation or background nor the details of what state the children are in. The article is not explicit on that.

TheKeatingFive · 02/09/2020 16:21

Whoa, that’s appalling abuse under any circumstances.

And I don’t think Spain’s approach was fine either. There was no need to be draconian about exercise outdoors.

Redolent · 02/09/2020 16:21

That is terrible.

But Sweden is hardly a bastion of enlightenment when it comes to this topic. Making home schooling illegal, including for children with special needs, is incredibly regressive too. You have families fleeing to Finland in order to homeschool their autistic children, or risk having them taken away.

SomewhereEast · 02/09/2020 16:25

If they've got to the point of boarding up their door that suggests mental health issues surely?

And re Spain (and Italy too I think?), I thought that policy was pointless & appalling at the time and was mystified at the number of people calling for a Spanish style lockdown here fat lot of good it did Spain too looking at current statistics

diddl · 02/09/2020 16:30

So in the country they were from kids were being not only locked in dwellings, but separated from siblings?

It doesn't really explain it though does it?

Kaiserin · 02/09/2020 16:57

From what I've heard, Sweden and Norway have a habit of forcefully putting immigrant kids into care for reasons which would be deemed unthinkable in many other countries (e.g., a single smack, of the kind which would be legal in England)

Am not saying that particular case of extreme lockdown was alright, but it doesn't mean the Swedish social services were fair and proportionate either. They are notoriously very heavy handed, and biased against immigrants.