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Track and Trace - Ryanair passengers removed

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mrshoho · 28/08/2020 08:37

www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/ryanair-passenger-removed-test-positive-coronavirus-a4534831.html

Unbelievable that this selfish person carried on with their travel plans despite being told they were positive for covid. I'm impressed they were found but I wonder how? Were they tipped off or was the phone tracked? It's one thing when people continue working when advised to isolate but to travel?

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Doyoumind · 28/08/2020 08:38

They themselves told the crew when they found out and had themselves removed.

Cookerhood · 28/08/2020 08:39

I think I read that they got their results by text when sitting on the plane. Presumably they had symptoms though, so should never have been traveling in the first place. Selfish.

SexTrainGlue · 28/08/2020 08:40

It's one thing when people continue working when advised to isolate but to travel?

The virus doesn't know whether you're at work or at play, and you should not be breaking required isolation for either.

Uhoh2020 · 28/08/2020 08:41

Why would you get on a plane whilst awaiting test results its madness

cologne4711 · 28/08/2020 08:43

If you are waiting for test results you should be isolating whatever? They may not have had symptoms, they may have been contacted by track and trace - but either way it was rather stupid.

The virus doesn't know whether you're at work or at play, and you should not be breaking required isolation for either

Some workplaces want you back after a negative test. It seems to be quite inconsistent. Also a local school has said that if pupils have a negative test they can go back and don't have to isolate for the full 14 days. Very different from the situation here though.

HeyBlaby · 28/08/2020 08:44

I suppose there is a chance it was totally innocent, for example care home staff are being tested weekly, so could have had the result from that whilst sat there, but who knows.

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mrshoho · 28/08/2020 08:47

@Doyoumind

They themselves told the crew when they found out and had themselves removed.

Oh I see now. I thought they'd had the text earlier. How many people could they have infected whilst being in the airport and on the airport buses etc alone?

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NailsNeedDoing · 28/08/2020 08:49

This person didn’t carry on with travel plans despite being told they were positive. If they had have done that, they’d be in Italy by now.

It probably wasn’t the most sensible move to try and travel while waiting for a result, but we don’t know why this person was tested or how long they’d been waiting for results.

SexTrainGlue · 28/08/2020 08:50

Some workplaces want you back after a negative test

If you are symptomatic and test negative then of course you go back! For it means something else has caused your symptoms.

If you are required to quarantine (travel) or isolate (close contact confirmed case) then you are not released by a negative test as you could be incubating it (typically 5-6 days, but range is 2-14, and only very, very rarely beyond that)

I suppose it's possible in this case that the traveller had no clue, and had only taken the test because an onwards destination had required one?

(Very glad they were masked, but even so I would not like to have been sitting in the row immediately in front of them!)

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mrshoho · 28/08/2020 08:50

@SexTrainGlue

It's one thing when people continue working when advised to isolate but to travel?

The virus doesn't know whether you're at work or at play, and you should not be breaking required isolation for either.

I agree completely but there will be people whose choice is food on the table and paying their rent or isolate at home. I can sympathise in these circumstances but not for travel.

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itsgettingweird · 28/08/2020 08:51

@HeyBlaby

I suppose there is a chance it was totally innocent, for example care home staff are being tested weekly, so could have had the result from that whilst sat there, but who knows.

Yes that's a good point.

Or could have been factory worker or high incidence area where mass testing is happening.

If they told crew and got off it doesn't sound like they decided to travel despite thinking they had it.

I would think anyone who deliberately goes to an airport whilst ill wouldn't then get off a plane?

Unless it's the only way to get a refund off Ryanair

I'm Still waiting and they were the ones to cancel my flight!

user1495884620 · 28/08/2020 08:57

*I would think anyone who deliberately goes to an airport whilst ill wouldn't then get off a plane?

Unless it's the only way to get a refund off Ryanair*

I suspect plane removal is one of Ryanair's hidden extra charges.

BessMarvin · 28/08/2020 08:59

The way the story's written it sounds like someone tracked them down to the plane so I was also wondering how that happened.

Crawlbee · 28/08/2020 09:00

They recieved the text whilst on the plane (before take off obviously) and apparently told staff who then coordinated the response. They could have kept quiet and carried on, but thankfully they did the responsible thing.

Doccomplaint · 28/08/2020 09:00

They got the text whilst sitting on the plane and immediately alerted the crew.

They won’t have been insured not to travel based on taking a test - so they would’ve lost money otherwise. And most tests are negative.

What more should they have done?

Cookerhood · 28/08/2020 09:03

I assumed they'd had a test because they had symptoms, but yes, of course it could have been work screening etc.

Doccomplaint · 28/08/2020 09:04

Dd is rested every week in her work. And has been since April. They have all been negative.

Doccomplaint · 28/08/2020 09:05

*tested

Cantdecidewhich · 28/08/2020 09:05

If they were flying to Italy you have to take a test within 72hrs of getting there or they test you at the airport, probably cut it a bit fine!

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mrshoho · 28/08/2020 09:18

Good job they hadn't switched their phone off or put on airplane mode then. I hadn't realised the text came whilst they were actually on the plane.

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TheSeedsOfADream · 29/08/2020 13:15

You don't have to have a test entering Italy from the UK. @Cantdecidewhich.

Walkaround · 29/08/2020 14:38

Given that some people have reported waiting 10 days and more to get their results back, recently, after a period when results were coming back quickly, it’s entirely possible they got tested on the back of non-typical symptoms, or even no symptoms at all but as a result of their work, and then decided after about a week that someone had stuffed up, so they probably wouldn’t hear one way or the other and they felt fine now, anyway. If they actually thought there was any risk they had coronavirus but wanted to travel anyway, they wouldn't have volunteered themselves for testing in the first place, surely? So yes, they wrong to travel before they knew the test result, but I doubt they believed they were likely to have covid 19 when they got on the plane.

AlexaShutUp · 29/08/2020 14:45

Some of my team at work are working directly with vulnerable people, and it is not always possible to maintain perfect social distancing, though they do try. We have therefore been getting them to get tested weekly for the last few months. No positive results as yet, but it could happen at any time.

So the people in question could have been perfectly innocent, and simply unlucky. It sounds like they alerted the crew as soon as they got the text, and cooperated with the authorities with regard to getting off the plane etc.

notimagain · 29/08/2020 15:31

I could have understood the outrage bus being warmed up and rolled out if the individual had ignored the text and flown, but given they volunteered the info and got off the aircraft it's hard to see what the fuss is about.

IndiaMay · 01/09/2020 15:08

Yes, OH is tested weekly due to his job. Could easily be asymptomatic and get a text at anytime telling him he has it. Hes not going to sit at home day in, day out just incase it comes back positive

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