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'COVID-19 Is Transmitted Through Aerosols.' - Research + info on masks

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chocciechocface · 27/08/2020 11:32

Really posting for those who think all the restrictions are a waste of time / obstruct freedom etc.

First - credentials:

Jimenez is a Professor of Chemistry and a Fellow of the Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences at the University of Colorado-Boulder. He is a highly cited researcher and a Fellow of the American Association for Aerosol Research and the American Geophysical Union.

Second - some extracts:

"The evidence in favor of aerosols is stronger than that for any other pathway, and officials need to be more aggressive in expressing this reality if we want to get the pandemic under control."

"To understand the scale of aerosols, the diameter of a human hair is about 80 microns, and aerosols smaller than about 50 microns can float in the air long enough to be inhaled. SARS-CoV-2 is only 0.1 microns in diameter, so there is room for plenty of viruses in aerosols."

“When it comes to COVID-19, the evidence overwhelmingly supports aerosol transmission, and there are no strong arguments against it. “

"We should continue doing what has already been recommended: wash hands, keep six feet apart, and so on. But that is not enough. A new, consistent and logical set of recommendations must emerge to reduce aerosol transmission."

"Second, masks are essential, even when we are able to maintain social distance. We should also pay attention to , as they are not just a parapet against ballistic droplets, but also a means to prevent “smoke” from leaking in through gaps. We should not remove masks to talk, nor allow someone who is not wearing a mask to talk to us, because we exhale aerosols 10 times as much when talking compared to breathing. Everyone should be careful to not stand behind someone with a poorly fitting mask, as the can cause aerosols to travel behind the person wearing it."

"In a fast-moving viral pandemic, scientific understanding will inevitably change as research catches up to the speed at which the virus spreads. However, it seems clear that aerosols are more important when it comes to transmitting COVID-19 than we thought six months ago—and certainly more important than public health officials are currently making them out to be. "

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chocciechocface · 27/08/2020 11:33

Link to article:

time.com/5883081/covid-19-transmitted-aerosols/

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itsgettingweird · 27/08/2020 11:37

Explains why the spread seems quicker in spaces where people are together for long periods of time such as factories.

RealityExistsInTheHumanMind · 27/08/2020 19:08

It confirms to me that wearing masks/face coverings in a non clinical setting is pointless.

People are not wearing effective masks and what they are wearing they are wearing incorrectly. They don't fit closely, they are constantly being touched, adjusted, dropped down over the chin, reused after being stored in a pocket or elsewhere BUT are believed to have magic properties which mean that social distancing is no longer important.

Luckily rates are low as I suspect the way we are wearing them they are increasing rather than reducing the risk of transmission.

EG Person who has virus - goes in shop after sanitising hands, does shop and leaves

Person sanitises hands then puts previously used mask with clean hands and adjusts it, transferring virus back to hands. Person then goes round shop alternately touching things and reinfecting hands as they adjust their mask. Person has mask on so doesn't see the need to keep a reasonable distance and is quite happy to get as close as they want to other people.

chocciechocface · 27/08/2020 19:16

If that was true - and there was actual evidence to back it up - the solution is not to stop wearing masks, it's to start wearing them properly.

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scaevola · 27/08/2020 19:26

BMJ has had a couple of interesting article about this

Two metres or one: what is the evidence for physical distancing in covid-19?
www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3223

Covid-19: Airborne transmission is being underestimated, warn expert
www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m2720

scaevola · 27/08/2020 19:32

This diagram, from the first article I linked, proposes a new schematic for riskiness of contact. It's based on a traffic light system for low, medium and high risk. And it takes into account things like air movement and explosive effort from the person. Masks clearly make a difference

'COVID-19 Is Transmitted Through Aerosols.' - Research + info on masks
EmMac7 · 27/08/2020 21:07

It’s obvious for a while now.

The recent cluster in a Starbucks in Seoul is further proof:

www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-08-25/this-starbucks-in-south-korea-became-a-beacon-for-mask-wearing

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