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% of death in local area

16 replies

Trackandtrace · 26/08/2020 22:55

Just worked out that in one county of uk infections and deaths mean that approx 25% of infected people gave died Shock

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Cookerhood · 26/08/2020 22:57

Link?

SquirtleSquad · 26/08/2020 23:00

What was the testing rate in this county over the period? And why don't you post which county it supposedly is?

Treesofwood · 26/08/2020 23:02

In July in Leicester over 1300 people confirmed as infected. Seven hospitalised. Thats quite some difference.

Forgone90 · 26/08/2020 23:02

If you are going to scaremonger OP best to do it in the middle of the day when more people are online.

Unless your case study has about 1000 people in it not a single person will take it seriously as it has no real credit

dementedpixie · 26/08/2020 23:05

Bollocks. We don't even know how many people are infected so you cant possibly say what an accurate death rate is

Trackandtrace · 26/08/2020 23:05

Not scare mongering just shocked. Curious if its a oddity area or others the same.

Powys 374 cases. 95 deaths so far. Low population area so low cases but high death toll

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emptyplinth · 26/08/2020 23:07

Right....

dementedpixie · 26/08/2020 23:08

374 known cases - have they tested everybody as the true figure will be far higher

Juniperandrage · 26/08/2020 23:13

This is because a lot of sick people in Powys got sent to Shrewsbury hospital, so they counted as tested in England

Trackandtrace · 26/08/2020 23:14

There are likely to be more cases in the same way there is likely to be more cases than tests show in every county but either way that still makes the % significantly higher than other counties.

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SquirtleSquad · 26/08/2020 23:16

Interesting it seems that testing became available much later there (23rd June) than elsewhere in the Uk (18th May) for the general population displaying symptoms for less than 5 days and it looks like patients were sent out of the area for testing and treatment so would fall under other areas for stats.

SquirtleSquad · 26/08/2020 23:20

"CONCERNS about the accuracy of figures on Covid-19 related deaths of Powys residents, continue to be raised.
And residents are being warned that incidents of coronavirus in the county are higher than the figures being confirmed by Public Health Wales.
Due to Powys not having a district general hospital, many patients have been treated outside the county at hospitals including Aberystwyth’s Bronglais, Nevill Hall in Abergavenny, The Royal Shrewsbury Hospital, Princess Royal Hospital in Telford and Hereford County Hospital.
Powys County Council’s anti-poverty champion, councillor Joy Jones has been contacted by many residents about the figures."

shinynewapple2020 · 27/08/2020 10:30

It's similar for my area OP it's because initially people were only tested for CV when they were very ill in hospital , or even after death. High number of deaths from elderly people. Since June there has been a lot more wider spread testing including showing those who have tested positive but have no symptoms or very mild symptoms .

Looking at the two figures of total deaths in an area and total positive cases isn't based on the same set of testing . I agree it's worrying when you first look at the numbers but it doesn't mean what it initially looks like.

110APiccadilly · 27/08/2020 15:00

IIRC Powys had virtually no testing centre for weeks if not months. So people there would have been tested in neighbouring counties.

Powys stats can also end up looking very odd because there's no major hospital there.

In short, you've identified an interesting data collection and processing issue, which tells us nothing about the fatality rate of CV19.

RealityExistsInTheHumanMind · 27/08/2020 22:04

Just an anomaly from the way things are recorded.

boys3 · 27/08/2020 23:11

@Trackandtrace there's a number of English LAs were that crude - as in total deaths (ONS) / confirmed cases - calculation is higher again, and a number are still higher even when care home deaths are removed.

But as confirmed cases don't represent actual numbers infected (which we'll never accurately know) you can't really draw any meaningful conclusions.

What does intrigue me is how cross border confirmed cases have seemingly got lost. Both England and Wales base confirmed case location on home postcode not where the test took place. But seemingly if a resident of Wales was tested with a confirmed case in England the data is not passed back to Wales???? and vice versa????

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