Why do PHE think a High School Yr group of 300 is a consistent group ?

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Source BBC. "A Department for Education spokeswoman said: "We have consistently followed Public Health England advice, which does not recommend the use of face coverings in schools because there are a range of protective measures in place, including children staying in consistent groups."

Our school have 300 per yr group. Students in our school will be in different ability classes for different subjects. Then mixing with the rest of the 1500 students in small corridors. Some gave siblings in multiple year groups.

Only difference is they're going to have different entrances and exits and social areas for their Yr group only. And staggered lunches.

Teachers also to teach each Yr group. Lord knows what LSAs are going to do.

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Ours are still going to be moving each lesson as well (I know some schools are having the teachers move, which has other problems). One way system but still, door handles, hand rails, the bit of the ceiling in the central corridor they all jump up and touch.

If an adult workplace said you were in a bubble of 300 and didn't need to SD or wear masks people would raise hell. But because they are 16 instead of 18 that makes it fine apparently.

I, personally, am not that worried about the virus, but given current measures and isolating to test I worry that we're all going to be in and out like the Hokey Cokey during winter. I don't think that's conducive to a decent education.

Our school has lots in a year group - maybe 200, few more maybe.

The year group is the bubble and there is a one way system to avoid corridor mingling.

A year group bubble is a joke IMO, it's just made up shit to enable schools to open.

@ekidmxcl

Our school has lots in a year group - maybe 200, few more maybe.

The year group is the bubble and there is a one way system to avoid corridor mingling.

A year group bubble is a joke IMO, it's just made up shit to enable schools to open.

Made up shit. Exactly. Schools are doing their best but it's such a bloody waste of time. Kids should be all In as normal ( hand-washing encouraged) or all out again when it's a local crisis !

They've moved on from this.

Now any infection in school is the teachers fault for bringing it in and they've been asked to be vigilant outside of school to prevent in school infection.

They know the measures are non existent nit enough.

So we're on item 3 if the gas lighting bible.

I can guarantee that if I get it it will be from the same place I get all my other germs. The place where my current snotty scratchy throat coldly thing is from.

From DD at nursery.

But that won't happen, because kids don't spread it 🙄

I have no idea. It's unbelievably risky.

My kids will be in masks.

@megletthesecond our school has said students are not allowed to wear masks!

Does anyone else feel the Govt know teachers are going to die (obviously not all) but it's seen as an accepted measure to keep the economy going.... Swings/roundabouts Losses vs Gains whatever you want to call it?

www.cnn.com/2020/08/24/uk/boris-johnson-crises-collide-intl-gbr/index.html

A rather unflattering summary of the UK handling of Covid. I had to snigger at the quote from Boris Johnson thanking school staff for working through the Summer to make schools covid secure. Surely he can't get away with that when it is an open fact that secondary schools cannot be covid secure?

I don't think they know they will.

I would imagine the numbers at high risk are fairly low? Maybe higher in some schools than others.

I doubt they'll care though. They'll blame the teacher. They already are.

But 'how' ill people get is irrelevant. If schools are closing due to epidemics within it's the education being disrupted.

And those who get long covid could be off for months.

@Frlrlrubert have you both been for a covid test?

The new government narrative is that teachers will bring COVID to school and infective the other adults but will never catch it from the kids.

It is a fucking mess and of course you're right but you won't get to "prove it" until schools shut

@cardibach

Yep, negative.

I think I'm going to test again later this week just to be 100% sure before I go back to school as well.

Well I'm not going to social distance from my husband who works in one of the busiest airports in the UK!!!

[quote Frlrlrubert]@cardibach

Yep, negative.

I think I'm going to test again later this week just to be 100% sure before I go back to school as well.[/quote]
Excellent! Very pleased for you. It’s a bugger of a thing and so easily mistaken for other, less damaging, things. Schools are definitely going to be hit by this though - not just Covid infections but coughs, colds etc forcing repeated isolation by staff and pupils.

Yes, I'm asthmatic and will probably have a cough most of the winter along with the nursery bugs, so I'm quite worried about whether I'd even spot the start of Covid symptoms.

I'd like to be able to test 'just in case' like weekly or something without isolating (unless one of us has red flag symptoms obviously), but I'm not sure it's practical or allowed.

While the focus has been on high touch areas, what about the fact covid19 is now said to be airborne? Doesn't that automatically mean all people sitting in a room together for a whole day are at risk of catching it from an infected person?

Anyone who actually thinks a 300 Yr group bubble, changing classrooms on the hour where other classes from other year groups all sitting shoulder to shoulder is a consistent bubble like the insane PHE?

Because the government know that to say anything else is going to cause havoc
They want the kids back in school at any cost

They are telling joe public what he/she wants to hear

When it goes wrong it’ll be the teachers fault

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