Four days in and a school with pupils with COVID.

[Roxburgh]

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/coronavirus-cluster-linked-glasgow-school-22511547

Fortunately at the minute pupils with mild symptoms but I think an early sign of what is to come around a 'stop - start' Autumn term for school closure and for pupils having to stay at home.

To be fair the students hadn't stepped foot in the school thankfully. it does show though the likelihood that there will be students walking back into schools with the infection.

Have you actually read the article? The kids have not been in the school.

They didn't contract it at school but I don't really find that too reassuring considering they have still been at school potentially infecting others. The current plan for secondary schools is unworkable and borderline negligent.

Well that serves me right for not reading the story properly! I stand by what I said about the Secondary school plans though.

For a start, it’s not “four days in”. Most schools only started going back yesterday. Many aren’t going to have all kids in til next week. Secondly, they did not get the virus at school, nor has it spread there. They were hanging out in the holidays together and have not returned to school. What it does clearly show though is that teenagers spread the virus and that behaviours outside school have an impact. Not sure why the disaster mongers are frothing about it. We’re always going to have outbreaks in schools. Overall cases in Scotland are very low. Time to bite the bullet and deal with outbreaks as they arise.

They haven’t been at school. If any other kids have been infected by them it was during the holidays.

Senga I think the papers are outrageous for having worded the article like this. Total scaremongering.

Does evidence that teenagers do pass on the virus and haven't been adhering to SD enough.
And of course these pupils have now been back at school with ....other pupils ....and staff.

Time will tell if:
Government 'safety measures' for schools are enough
Pupils and staff are immune within a school
'All schools reopening in September' is really, some schools, sometimes, for some pupils...so not really open at all.

Hope employers are going to be supportive of their staff requiring time at home when school is closed, when pupils need collecting throughout the day, when there aren't enough teachers and when testing needs to happen.

They haven't been back to school.

4 days in to what?

Roxburgh Again, the affected children have NOT been back to school.

Don’t you even read the articles you link to or are you just excited to spread scaremongering?

Schools (in the main) reopened yesterday and the children in question haven’t set foot in their school.
Sensationalism at it’s finest.

It's a good example of why schools will end up being centres for clusters though. It's not just about children passing it around among themselves, it's about community spread.

What a ridiculously misleading headline when none of them went into school. It's good that they got tested and they've all been identified, hopefully not many more from the group.

@SengaStrawberry

For a start, it’s not “four days in”. Most schools only started going back yesterday. Many aren’t going to have all kids in til next week. Secondly, they did not get the virus at school, nor has it spread there. They were hanging out in the holidays together and have not returned to school. What it does clearly show though is that teenagers spread the virus and that behaviours outside school have an impact. Not sure why the disaster mongers are frothing about it. We’re always going to have outbreaks in schools. Overall cases in Scotland are very low. Time to bite the bullet and deal with outbreaks as they arise.

It’s not that ‘we’re always going to have outbreaks in schools’, as though the UK is a level playing field. We’re going to have outbreaks and school closures/mass quarantines particularly in areas of deprivation and high ethnic minority populations, where people work in riskier professions and live in multigenerational households. Many schools will, I guarantee, continue undisturbed throughout the year. The attainment gap will almost certainly widen when some pupils are at home and others are getting a normal education.

It doesn't evidence that they can pass on the virus at all, it doesn't say they've caught off each other and passed it onto anyone else, they could be 8 pupils who don't even know each other!
Anyone who thinks that teenagers have been adhering to social distancing is seriously living in a dream world from what I've seen!
Quit the scaremongering.

I think the papers are outrageous for having worded the article like this. Total scaremongering

I agree entirely.

This reminds me of the screaming headlines the first time a pub had to shut after a positive case. It's inevitable that a pupil at a school, somewhere will test positive, just like it was inevitable that a pub would have to use its track and trace system. If anyone thought that it wouldn't happen then they weren't thinking very hard. What it doesn't mean is that it'll happen in every school or pub, or even very frequently.

I read there'd been an outbreak of ten in the area. Assuming this is correct, unless two adults have had contact with all eight separately and passed it on to just them (unlikely), some must have contracted it from eachother.

@Redolent

Yes deprived areas will be disproportionately affected (myriad of reasons, some preventable others not) but more affluent families are more mobile, don't forget it was ski holidays that imported the virus!

So you are 'assuming' that none of the eight pupils with COVID from one high school had had any contact with each other....these are just a random set of children...not sure that that eases the concern?

They haven't actually been in school though, so it's not because school has opened. Their parents are doing the right thing by keeping them at home until recovered.

Redolent

Absolutely, this is my biggest concern. I teach in an area like you describe - high BAME population, overcrowded, lots of multigenerational living. Even our school is overcrowded as we had to expand due to rising pupil numbers.

I’m sure schools like the one I teach in will close more frequently than the small, leafy school my own DS attends.

Wow the claws are out for schools on here, wait until September, mumsnet will have stories of children and teachers dropping like flies every 5 minutes and the world is doomed

It doesnt matter that they havent been to school through, a day or 2 later showing symptoms and they would have been in school with virys pre symptoms.
It also shows that school age children can and do get the virus. If they picked it up at an outside meet up with friends, popping to the shop, having a meal it doesnt nake any difference as it shows they can catch virus and other evidence shows they can spread the virus.
These 8 children wont return to school till they are no longer a risk but how many have returned as they have no symptoms or symptoms arent showing yet. This is unlikely to be clear for a few weeks.