Bugger. Was being all complacent about my kids going back to school in Sept, then I checked the dashboard

[DebbieFiderer]

I hadn't seen the local dashboard before but have just taken a look after someone posted the link on another thread. My village and most of the borough has no casds, but there is one small local outbreak, of 6 cases, in one small area of the borough. It's the classic type of area that seems to be hardest hit - high BAME population (highest by far in the borough) and high levels of deprivation. It also happens to be where DD's secondary school is located 😥 I'm still not especially worried about the risk of catching it, the odds are still very low and we are all low risk, and I come into close contact with far more people at work than she will at school, but it does bring it home a bit.

Yeah it’s definitely worth keeping in mind in terms of evaluating risk in and around your area. I can see a very unfair situation where certain schools (in deprived areas) keep closing as a result, and others continue undisturbed.

Dashboard here - check the map at the very bottom.

coronavirus.data.gov.uk/?_ga=2.80368535.1879793525.1597140539-444045916.1596346567

It will be interesting to see what happens if the school has to close due to an outbreak in that area, if they will still be open for keyworker children. DD attended throughout, she was one of only a handful who did, and while I'm happy with her being at home alone for a short while, I'm not so happy about all day every day, and if the school are closed due to an outbreak it probably wouldn't be prudent for her to go to my parents' house...

I think that if a school is closed, it is closed - essentially, it is closed for quarantine, and therefore allowing some children in (in my school , around 50% of children count as keyworker children) would be wrong in terms of infection control.

In terms of local lockdowns - rather than in-school outbreaks - I think the situation is more moot. I think it more likely they would try to bash on regardless, then go to part time, then close completely, rather than go to keyworker childcare.

I wonder how focussed the local lockdown might get? Would they lock down just a single ward or the whole borough? I don't expect an answer to that BTW, I'm just musing, but it is going to be interesting to see how things pan out. I'm definitely going to be checking the dashboard regularly now.

When you say you are exposed to more people at work than she will be at school, is that fleeting contact? Or prolonged? I don't think people are taking into account the high transmission rate from prolonged contact.

Supermarket work- lots of people, but brief contact. Classroom, only up to 30 people, but for hours.

I hadn't seen the interactive dashboard map before I clicked on your link @Redolent. I have to say I found it immensely, immensely helpful.

Thank you, kind internet stranger.

@Alittleodd

I hadn't seen the interactive dashboard map before I clicked on your link *@Redolent*. I have to say I found it immensely, immensely helpful.

Thank you, kind internet stranger.

You’re welcome. I got irrationally excited when I found it a few days ago (I know that’s sad...!!!!)

Quick question about map... My whole town is grey... Does thateam no reported cases? In the key the no cases is white

Picklemewalnuts - I see up to 20 people per day, face to face, for about 10-15 mins each time, with direct (touching, albeit with PPE) contact. Occasionally I can be with the same one or two people for several hours, again, with direct contact, although again I will be using PPE.

Aroundtheworld - you can click on the area and it gives you the numbers. I think grey is zero.

So your D.C. will see at least as many people as you, but in an enclosed space for several hours, no masks.

I'm not trying to scare you- just clarifying the situation you are considering.

Dc definitely has far more exposure! Crowded room, for hours! No ppe.

Why are you assuming the room will be crowded? The school is undersubscribed and has a lot more space than most secondary schools per pupil. I'm happy with the plans they have in place. On the other hand I come into contact with bodily fluids fairly regularly. Believe me, for our specific circumstances, I have more risk than she does.

Assumed typical school. Undersubscribed would make a difference. I was happy when yr 10 went back with 10 in a class and a lot of measures in place.

Most classes will have 30 in them.

Also, I am taking into account that she will be with the same group of 25-30 all the time, whereas I could see 80-100 people per week.

Yes, undersubscribed will help.

I'm surprised you say that, though. I'd have thought that sharing a room for seven hours with someone who has CV almost inevitably means you'd catch it.
Then again, seeing 20 different people every day stacks up the odds of you coming across someone with it.

Thank you Op. I'm interested in relative risks, as we all are these days I'm sure!

If you're going to send them back to school, especially secondary, I think you just have to accept there's a good chance they will catch it and not worry about it.

In most secondary schools they're going to be coming into contact with large numbers of people with no social distancing, no ppe and very limited hygiene/handwashing facilities. Schools are pretty filthy places with tight budgets/outsourced cleaning contracts so I would expect some extra antibac wipes and the odd bottle of hand sanitiser to be the extent of it!

That map is amazing, so helpful so thank you to the poster that linked to it💐

As a nurse in a mental health in patient ward we are swabbing pretty much everyone that dares to breath 😆
I have swabbed 4 people today with admission swabs, post admission swabs and a discharge swab so it's amusing to find there are zero reported cases in my area according to that map🤷‍♀️😆 Puts the risk into perspective though and makes me feel a bit reassured.

Op when our school had a covid positive student during lockdown, keyworker school closed For 14 days so I'm sure that will happen.

@Aroundtheworldin80moves

Quick question about map... My whole town is grey... Does thateam no reported cases? In the key the no cases is white

Yes it means no cases. I believe it updates every Friday.

I'm clicking on the link and just seeing graphs, no map. Where can i find the msp please?

Sorry @Redolent I’ve clicked but I can’t see the
map..?

I can't see a map or a link to one

No map for me, either...

No map either, thought it sounded interesting

We are also swabbing everyone on admission (although I don't generally deal with inpatients) and so far haven't had any asymptomatic positives which is reassuring.