Some perspective is needed

[GermanSausage]

Current percentage of covid deaths in UK is approx 0.00063%. Assuming approx 42K deaths.

Yet reading all these hand wringing school threads, you would think it was 10%.

Am I the only one who thinks hysteria has set in and people are losing the ability of rational thought?

The proof was from China before lockdown was a thing. The research is out there. What the pp pointed out as exponential, never happened and in fact has never happened. There is a slight uptick and then a levelling off. A small percentage will die just like any virus and it won't always be old people, it will be younger people with not so great genetics but for the majority it's harmless.

It does seem that even the media can't be bothered to talk about it now as they can't find and scare stories.... I live in the south west and the paper the other day heaine was that cases in the down have tripped in a week... After reading the story tho you realise one we we had 2 cases and the next week we had 6... I know small Numbers can turn into bg ones but the headlines was a common scare tactic they use as clickbait.

No OP, it's not t just you. It's the OPs of the other hundred or so threads saying the same thing.

@nellodee

Exponential growth. Every so many days, cases double. The higher the transmission rate, the less days to double. Before lockdown, it was about every 3 days. It's much slower now, but if you don't stop those little numbers, they become bigger numbers pretty quickly.

1
2
4
8
16 Why are we worrying about this, more chance of getting struck by lightning
32
64
128
256
512
1024 I can't believe people are making this much fuss over such a tiny percentage of the population
2048
4096
8192
16384
32768 - stop me when you think we have a problem
65536
131072 - getting some pretty big jumps here, aren't we?
262144
524288 - maybe we should have done something a bit earlier....
1048576
2097152

Keep trying @nellodee you have the patience of a Saint!! 🌷

Frankly I'd rather be like NZ. 4 cases in one family & they have put NZ into lockdown. L3 in AKLD (where the infected family are) & Level 2 over the rest of the country! Until they trace where it came from.

4 cases.

Cases in the weeks in March:
Week 1: Around 1000
Week 2: Around 4000 Warnings being given and asking people to isolate with symptoms
Week 3: Around 13500 Lockdown
Week 4: Around 28000

Then it slowed down because we were in lockdown.

So even assuming we were "only" doubling every week-which before lockdown it was 3x or even 4x, it could have gone:

Week 5: 56k
Week 6: 112k
Week 7: 224k
Week 8: 448k
Week 9: 896k
Week 10 (that's approximately May half term) : One million seven hundred and ninety two thousand.

Presuming there was a 0.5% death rate that would only have equated to nearly 9 000 deaths that week. Never mind. I imagine most of them had health issues or were old so they really wouldn't matter.
And at that rate we'd soon have reached herd immunity, wouldn't we? Except we don't know yet whether that would ever have happened because it doesn't look like people stay immune even after having it.

Actually - I'm not at all scared of dying from the virus. I possibly should be - but I'm not.

I am scared of long term health problems connected with the virus. These seem to be more common than death. Under reported maybe. The Covid deniers seem to be unaware of them.

Indeed - No country has experiences an exponential increase in Covid deaths regardless of how they have managed the situation.

And very very few people who have argued against lockdown, or argued against continued range of restrictions have suggested that we shouldn’t do anything at all.

I do think you’re oversimplifying it somewhat but I do agree with the sentiment to a point.

Got to love Mumsnet though -
Goes on coronavirus forum
Gets pissed off that there are threads about coronavirus
Clicks in threads to have a mard at the OP
Flounces off to find another one they don’t like the look of
Ad Infinitum

I don't think anyone on the Coronavirus section is pissed off at seeing a Coronaviru thread, but when an OP starts a thread which is virtually identical to at least three in Coronavirus active it makes you wonder if they bother reading anything else.

No country has experiences an exponential increase in Covid deaths regardless of how they have managed the situation.

From a handful of cases to tens of thousands in a few weeks is pretty close to exponential!

I have just posted this on another thread. This Twitter thread documents the COVID-19 mass graves around the world, including London.

twitter.com/jonshaffer/status/1293262830934753280

Death, however, is only one factor. There is also the burden of Long Covid, as yet unknown health impacts and of course the growing evidence of reinfection/reactivation from around the world. There is no need to be "hysterical" - how I hate the use of that word which for centuries has long been used to shut down women's legitimate health concerns - but there is real scientific data that should cause us to take this seriously.

And on the exponential growth, the growth slows when human behaviour breaks the chain of transmission, whether through formal lockdown or concerned citizens taking their own decisions and staying home. There is no "immunological dark matter" at play, as some more of the more, ahem, edgy theories have postulated.

@Cookiecrisps

The issue isn’t as clear cut as deaths from the virus. There are many people on MN who have reported ongoing debilitating symptoms as a result of catching the virus for months. The virus has been linked to cardiac and lung problems including people now needing a lung transplant due to scarring of the lungs. The number of people suffering from these ongoing conditions as a direct result of catching the virus is unknown. This includes previously fit and healthy people with none of the publicised risk factors. I believe we are right to be cautious and take sensible precautions because of this.

This is everything I wanted to say.