Indoor visits when the weather turns

[MummaPI]

Can I ask your thoughts on this?
I've read that it should be 2 metres apart and if closer wear a mask. I know its so vague but there's also mention of it being airborne inside for 5 hours.
What will you do when the weather turns?
We've had close family visits in the garden so far and not keen for inside stuff yet.

[Redolent]

@TheBananaInPyjamas

Worried about this too OP. I think the problem is visiting others homes. My friend has invited me round and I'm planning to sit in garden but she's going to want to go inside at some point and not sure what I'll say! (She also has a newborn that I'm expected to cuddle but that's another story!!) I think now the daily briefings have stopped and it's not in the news people think they're not affected. Very frustrating.

Well this meet-up is a recipe for disaster. Sort out this expectations now. Do NOT wait until you go round. Message her now and make it clear that you’re not going inside her house and that you’re very upset you won’t be having any newborn cuddles but that’s the way it is.

This is so addressable right now. Better an awkward exchange beforehand than you feeling upset afterwards.

[WhyAreWeHardOfThinking]

@epythymy

I didn't realise people weren't seeing people indoors. I have seen plenty of people inside my home.

And this is why we in Manchester can now not see our families in homes and gardens.

I have been in 1 other person's house since February because I was absolutely desperate to use the toilet. We had been trying to maintain visiting parents and siblings in gardens before we both go back to work in schools, but now can't do that. Once we are back, our families are quite rightly going to treat us like Typhoid Marys.

[toolatetooearly]

I'm sticking my mum in the shed and we're going to use walkie-talkies

[Caspianberg]

We have had people inside. Not in uk. I’m been home with just dh working from home and baby born during full lockdown in May.

I have no family members in this country. If we hadn’t started having the odd neighbour or friend over the last few weeks I would have gone stir crazy and prob hugely ramped up postnatal depression.

We meet in garden if possible, but it’s been 30+ here the last 6 weeks which is too hot for new baby outside.

We have had the same couple of people over, who have greatly helped us with our baby. It’s a small risk that we take over not meeting people for the rest of the year and baby never having contact with anyone else.

Our ‘substitute neighbour grandma’ will come over this afternoon and take baby for a walk around the block for us to give me 30 mins child free, and then come back and will hold baby and play on the floor with him if he is awake. He’s 3 months, he can’t be 2m from everyone

[Judystilldreamsofhorses]

So now some 18year olds in education who are old enough to grow a beard are at fault? If they go back to school it will be because they've been told to, not because they are big hairy monsters who want to spread the virus. Many 13 year olds have facial hair- are they to blame too? How about the girls- are they ok because they look pretty?

You are being ridiculous - my point was that upper secondary students are adults and therefore will transmit the virus as adults, in very crowded conditions with no precautions, unlike in any other setting. (To take my earlier example, the student working in Tesco would have social distancing, and a mask/perspex screen, depending on what their role was.)

Unless the message changes to "stay home, protect schools" people will continue to do what they are allowed to do socially, including seeing people in their own homes.

[Chaotic45]

@Judystilldreamsofhorses to my eyes your choice of words was crass and really unfair on young people who from my POV have really been forgotten in all of this.

If people choose to continue to meet indoors once schools open then that is their call entirely. It is worrying that so many people seem to have no appreciation of any risk that this might introduce though.

[walksen]

Well the northwest has shown what happens when people meet indoors then get complacent about distancing indoors. We are allowed to meet indoors in most areas but still need to careful when you do so.

[Judystilldreamsofhorses]

@Chaotic45 I genuinely don't understand why that offended you so - it's a fact, that upper school students are adults. It is a nonsense that a 17 year old is being seen in the same way as a six year old. In fact, you could argue that the six year old is in a stronger position in terms of being in a "class bubble", and probably either walking to school or being driven by a parent, not to mention being statistically less likely to catch COVID, or be badly struck by it.

I teach young adults, and believe me, in my organisation we worked very hard throughout the full lockdown to make sure every single student was supported and achieved. I should work four days a week, I worked seven. Teachers are hated on MN, and we get that, but we see the inside story on what is going to happen when schools return.

I don't think my having a friend in my kitchen will make a blind bit of difference to any of that. The risks will be in schools - maybe not for little ones, but definitely for older students. Throughout the pandemic people have flouted the rules (which I have not personally done) but they are allowed to meet indoors!

[ChavvySexPond]

@MereDintofPandiculation

Hiring a portaloo is better, then the hire firm will do the emptying.

I am working out all the ramifications but hasn't considered that one. Cheers

[latticechaos]

@Letseatgrandma

To those of you who won’t be meeting anyone inside, how do you feel about schools going back?

Worried at the prospect of 1000 secondary pupils indoors tbh