The most misleading article ever?

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I don’t want to give them any clicks but at least you can leave a comment if you do.

Shocking reporting but some people will believe it. It is after all a convenient thing to believe. Normality has returned. Oh crikey I’d love normal to come back right now.

You have to scroll and scroll to read the other science. The science that’s not being followed (because it’s more expensive?? 🤷‍♀️).

Children don’t spread the virus. There is no evidence it spreads in schools. You literally couldn’t make it up. Except they have. I guess you can always find some science to fit 😢

Can you even prove how it’s spread at all anyway? All we surely need to know is it spreads! And that it spreads better indoors.

I guess at least you know the government is getting really desperate when it seeks out the daily mail to try and rescue public opinion. Some of it is so far fetched I actually snorted out loud.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8608787/Pupils-pose-no-risk-spreading-Covid-says-study.html?login#article-8608787

I have just read the same article in the guardian. The actual study has not been published yet

It did read like an article sponsored by Gavin Williamson. It's based entirely on one study, conducted in England where since March, schools have only been open to far fewer pupils than normal with strict distancing measures that will not be possible when schools reopen to the usual numbers. It amused me that the DM had put this up alongside an article about how Sir David King predicted further lockdowns as soon as schools went back.

Do you think that WHO are also a pro-Tory government organisation? They're usually quite cautious regarding public health.

www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/q-a-schools-and-covid-19

The role of children in transmission is not well understood. To date, few outbreaks involving children or schools have been reported. However, the small number of outbreaks reported among teaching or associated staff also suggests that spread of COVID-19 within educational settings may be limited.

As children generally have milder illness and fewer symptoms, cases may sometimes go unnoticed. Importantly, early data from studies suggest that infection rates among teenagers may be higher than in younger children. Some modelling studies suggest that school re-opening might have a small effect on wider transmission in the community, but this is not well understood.

@MinnieMousse

It did read like an article sponsored by Gavin Williamson. It's based entirely on one study, conducted in England where since March, schools have only been open to far fewer pupils than normal with strict distancing measures that will not be possible when schools reopen to the usual numbers. It amused me that the DM had put this up alongside an article about how Sir David King predicted further lockdowns as soon as schools went back.

It feels like they’ve embarrassed themselves with contradictions today, will be interested to see tomorrow’s papers 👀

I've been frustrated with this kind of thing throughout. I'm very much pro opening schools, but agree this type of headline isn't helpful at all.

They keep testing a handful of people then projecting figures. And whilst I'm sure that is absolutely scientifically sound, people cling onto the figures. I remember the Zoe app mentioning 8000 cases a day and people quoting it on here constantly. When it was adjusted daily and came down to a fraction of that very quickly.

But as PP has shared above, the general concept that opening schools poses a small risk is being shared across the world. It's not a Tory / UK specific thing.

Yes well it probably is low risk as most countries have bern SD and wearing masks at secondary..
Australia have shut them and gone into lock downs..
It seems incredibly stupid when asymptomatic people are the main challenge tk create schools of them. Even if they dont catch covid they will everything else.
Any KW with say 4 young dc wont be very reliably at work anyway.
There are already threads on here of dc catching colds etc.

Useful thread with links to research on children and Covid19:

mobile.twitter.com/DrZoeHyde/status/1286985284102443008

I never trust the Mail... but no, I don't think this article is misleading. In any case, evidence that schools are a problem, in real-world scenarios like Sweden and Switzerland who have had schools open for some time, is very thin indeed. And contact tracing very rarely finds children are index cases in clusters.

But look - this is all daft - we shouldn't have to prove it's safe to justify reopening schools. That's nonsense. It should be the other way round. Anyone who wants to keep schools closed should have to prove that it's dangerous.