I'm a teacher and I'm scared.

[NebularNerd]

I don't feel safe going back to work in September. When I became a teacher I did not anticipate doing so during a pandemic. I, like many others in secondary schools, will be facing up to 150 students a day, indoors, with no protection.
I am over 40 but not otherwise in a high risk category, although my husband is and we have elderly parents who will be exposed if I'm infected, as well as young children who will also be in school and potentially exposed.
I'm not disputing the need for children to return to school at all. I'm just starting to fear returning.
Anyone else feel this way?

@noblegiraffe

Oh has *@Friendsoftheearth* shift finished? Some people don’t realise that amateur lobbyists of the ‘pandemic is a hoax’ type level of thinking send posters over to specific Mumsnet threads to repeat a list of shitty talking points.

They should just be directed to the Toby Young shagging network. Stop them wanking over winding up teachers on here.

The irony being that U4T are a voice for the sorts of views held be many Mumsnetters that drove teachers off the main boards (and me away for a month or so). It's twisted.

If FT school is the government’s number one priority, I just don’t get why no real measures are being put in place to keep them open?

@Sunrise234 if they take my temperature I'll be sent home. Hot flushes and all that 😂

@Sunrise234 I had my temp taken at the hairdresser's on Saturday and it was 35.6 according to their thermometer, so borderline hypothermic

[quote mumsneedwine]@Sunrise234 if they take my temperature I'll be sent home. Hot flushes and all that 😂[/quote]
I'm thinking I might stick with obesity in the hope I'll be sent home (joking!)

[quote epythymy]**@BigChocFrenzy* I'm not ignoring the experts and going by "feels". I'm going by actual real world experience of working with the virus as well as* other experts who just happen to disagree with the one you've found. Because this is not actually proveable either way. It's opinion based in science and therefore conclusions can be made either way. The difference between us is that you've found studies to confirm your bias whereas I prefer ones that back up my actual experience. Could both be wrong [/quote]
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it's not an "expert I happened to find"

That was UK govt report "Direct and Indirect Impacts of COVID-19 on Excess Deaths and Morbidity"
created by a team of experts from the DHS , ONS, Govt actuary & Home Office

It is the level of data that is fed into government and which helps to form their decisions

Of course I trust such official sources rather than an anonymous MN poster claiming rl experience
You may possibly be an HCP, but you don't sound like a statistician or actuary qualified to calculate deaths and lost years

Why are we not doing this?

DfE guidelines say no to temperature checking because thermometers cost money despite the rest of the world thinking it’s useful, we don’t (see also masks).

@Fedup21

If FT school is the government’s number one priority, I just don’t get why no real measures are being put in place to keep them open?

Exactly this! It’s all hot air.

I went to the vet this morning. I had to wait in the car with my mask on while they took my temperature. Then they sprayed me with sanitiser before I was allowed into the foyer to consult with the vet at 2m distance. Only one person in the building at a time, everyone else had to wait in their cars. It makes a mockery of everyone insisting that other professionals are working so why can’t teachers? I’m sure teachers would happily work with those measures in place.

I went to the library with my kids. We booked a slot, filled in a form about reading preferences and they brought out a bag of books that they’d picked for the kids which they handed over. 2 seconds interaction and we didn’t even go in the building.

mumsneedwine SaltyAndFresh

😂😂😂

"I hope BJ meant what he said about prioritising schools above pubs etc if cases rise"

Well they are spending a lot of extra money on help out to eat out and sweet fuck all on schools.......

When pp try to deny the large number of excess deaths, it make me discount anything else they say
and I am very much someone pushing for ft schools and not blended learning

I considered signing the U4T petition when it first started, but then I noticed the denialism of some fervent supporters

I think we've a very good chance in Germany of keeping ft schools going through winter (with some individual closures)
but I'm not sure what will happen in the UK
Denialism and scapegoating teachers & their union are no substitute for actual measures to help schools stay open.

@Friendsoftheearth can I ask you why you are so aggressive? We want schools open we want all the children in. We are just asking for some of the Covid safe measures everyone else is untitled to. What is wrong with that?

noblegiraffe

Thank you. That makes sense

@Glamazoni

I went to the vet this morning. I had to wait in the car with my mask on while they took my temperature. Then they sprayed me with sanitiser before I was allowed into the foyer to consult with the vet at 2m distance. Only one person in the building at a time, everyone else had to wait in their cars. It makes a mockery of everyone insisting that other professionals are working so why can’t teachers? I’m sure teachers would happily work with those measures in place.

I went to the vets last week and wasn't even allowed to set foot inside the building. They asked on the phone what the problem was, determined that it was serious enough to need to see a vet that day and gave me an appointment. When I arrived I had to ring the bell on the door, and then wait in the car until someone came to take my pet inside.

@Fedup21

If FT school is the government’s number one priority, I just don’t get why no real measures are being put in place to keep them open?

This

I went to the vets last week and wasn't even allowed to set foot inside the building. They asked on the phone what the problem was, determined that it was serious enough to need to see a vet that day and gave me an appointment. When I arrived I had to ring the bell on the door, and then wait in the car until someone came to take my pet inside.

Bloody lazy, workshy vets

Sorry you're in this position OP. I'll be due back to the office soon dealing with members of the public. I'll be in a mask, they'll be in a mask and there'll be a plastic screen between us. It's a disgrace teachers aren't being offered any protection.

Friendsoftheearth (and others on this thread) are so aggressive because they are bots here to repeat the propaganda of their group, not to engage in discussion or learn anything new.

I’m now pretty sure that they think the pandemic is a hoax and that their insistence that schools return full time with no measures is because they don’t want their kids affected by the hoax. Schools won’t close because it’s a hoax. Their kids won’t bring the virus home because it’s a hoax. Kids don’t transmit a non-existent virus to teachers and teachers should stop worrying because it’s all not real.

What they’re saying makes far more sense when you come at it from that angle. A mad angle, for sure.

noble I am not a bot, I am a person who disagrees with you. You seem to find it very hard for anyone to present a different point of view.

I am 110% behind children's right to an education. If teachers don't want to go back to work, absolutely fine, resign, but we have to open schools regardless.

Only today the NSPCC published the results of the epic and appalling scale of child abuse happening in this country during lockdown, now without even a school system to keep vulnerable children safe they are even more exposed to danger and abuse. It is just horrific that we are not even talking about the real fear, violence and sexual abuse that is happening because children in lockdown are now at the mercy of their abusers and have no way out, the school system is a safety net for these children and even this has been taken away.

So yes we need to open schools, we need to make sure that children are safe and we need to start teaching again.

www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/news/local-news/nspcc-child-sexual-abuse-lockdown-4409740

Nah friends, we’ve been on your facebook page and seen your discussions.

We know what you’re doing.

@Enoughnowstop

Do you really think it is beyond parents to provide hand sanitizer?

Just ask them.

Schools are perfectly capable of fundraisers for other improvements, some of which are non essential. Why is is completely out of the question to do the same for hand sanitizer.

Since you directly asked me I’ll respond. Yes I’d be quite happy to supply my children with hand sanitizer.

Part of the issue in my view is that teachers seem to be finding issues but not looking for solutions.

The hand sanitizer argument that is littered throughout this thread is a prime example of that. On no! There’s not hand sanitizer children must stay home. There’s a perfectly logical and practical solution.

Jesus christ- now sexual abuseis teachers fault!
You really are scummy,Friends.

Perhaps direct your anger at the government which cut social and children's services to such an extent that schools end up being a safety net when that really should not be their job.

Now i'm suggesting that teachers stop responding to your posts, which are goady and deliberately inciting hatred of teachers. I'd love for you to fuck off but I strongly suspect you're enjoying yourself too much. You really should see a therapist.