Do you think this is OK?

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DPIL live on the coast, a few weeks ago we agreed we would visit this weekend coming for DD's birthday weekend. We have since been put on a local lock down in Trafford and are not allowed in others houses. DH thinks we are still able to visit, as DP are not in the Greater Manchester area and we are therefore not breaking any rules. I think as WE are from Greater Manchester where the rules are imposed, we would still be breaking the rules.

Who is correct?

You are correct in that it would be the wrong thing to do and inconsistent with the intent and aims of the current restrictions

Goodness knows what the actual rule are though

www.gov.uk/guidance/north-west-of-england-local-restrictions-what-you-can-and-cannot-do

explicitly says -

"If you live in one of the affected areas, in order to help prevent the spread of coronavirus, you should not:
-meet people you do not live with inside a private home or garden, except where you have formed a support bubble (or for other limited exemptions to be specified in law)

• visit someone else’s home or garden even if they live outside of the affected areas

Sadly you are as the rules mean you can't go to see other people in their homes, gardens or other indoor venues.

The guidelines are clear. You can’t do this.

I would say if you go it's against the spirit of the law (is it actual law or just guidance?) But technically fine.

I would go personally, as the rules are being made up as they go along and even the people who make them dont follow or understand them fully. They just need the majority to follow them.

The guidelines explicitly say do not do this!

I would say if you go it's against the spirit of the law (is it actual law or just guidance?) but technically fine.

Have you actually read the guidelines?

Thank you for your comments.

Does anyone know when the next review is?

You can go to a restaurant though and mix with strangers!

Think 15th August before any changes, at the earliest.

You can go to a restaurant though and mix with strangers!

Presumably they won’t be sitting at your table and talking to you?

@PurpleDaisies yes, but you’ll be sharing the toilets with strangers and breathing the same air without masks...
I know where I’d feel safer and that’s at a family member’s house opposed to a pub or restaurant.

Is all absolute nonsense.

I heard on the grape vine that the only reason that particular local lockdown was put in place, when it was put in place was to prevent large gatherings celebrating Eid. (This could be bullshit so don’t quote me)
If it’s true though they may lift it again soon with a bit of luck.

There's lots of speculation about it being because of Eid, but if that was the case, why wait until 15th August to possibly ease it up?

I'm just so fed up. I honestly feel like I'm struggling so much with the new 'normal' and all these rules. I feel like we'll never have a 'normal' life and I'm so sick of being scared to make any plans incase they're cancelled

From the Gov UK site.

But are they being stopped from sitting on a plane with hundreds of others ?

Near the bottom of the page

www.gov.uk/guidance/north-west-of-england-local-restrictions-what-you-can-and-cannot-do

I think they said weekly reviews? But would be surprised if released after one week so think it will be at least two.
Could you stay in a hotel/Airbnb?

There are so many mixed messages now that no one really knows what is right anymore if relying on Government info.

But there is a thing called common sense that appears to be rare these days. Not aimed at you OP BTW.

I would not travel OP, but I am a lazy git!

There will be more opportunities hopefully going forward.

DPIL live on the coast, a few weeks ago we agreed we would visit this weekend coming for DD's birthday weekend. We have since been put on a local lock down in Trafford and are not allowed in others houses. DH thinks we are still able to visit, as DP are not in the Greater Manchester area and we are therefore not breaking any rules. I think as WE are from Greater Manchester where the rules are imposed, we would still be breaking the rules

The gov uk site seems to be saying that you can still travel/go on holiday but only with your own household, but you cannot stay in some one else's house when you get there.

Is there anyway you could stay in a hotel nearby? You could still meet your relatives outdoors at social distance

@SteelyPanther no people are still leaving this area to go abroad.
The advice is totally contradictory. People still going on all inclusive holidays.
Op I am in the area too & i understand you can go on hols as long as you stay with your household & you could meet your PiL at a park/public space ensuring you socially distance. Is it too far to go there & back in a day? Could you find a local air bnb?

Thank you again for everyone's helpful comments and advice.

Unfortunately couldn't do the trip there and back in a day. Alternative accommodation is unlikely, both DH and I are self employed so already losing a few days pay to go away, plus the cost of car hire, insurance and petrol and then slightly overspent on DD's birthday to over compensate for the shit situation we're all in. I just don't see how it's doable