Schools analogy

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I have been offered two jobs, both starting in September and both in the same role. The first is full time hours but on a temporary contract, perhaps for only for a couple of weeks but almost certainly less than six. The second is part time hours but on a permanent contract.

Which of these would be the best position to accept?

I see the argument that fewer students in at any one time allows more space for social distancing, but otherwise I think that if Covid is going to rip through a school population, it's unlikely that it will only rip through one half and not the other. Too many students will have siblings/friends that they see at home in the other half and the teachers will need to be in both halves anyway. That's aside from the question of whether pupils in schools will ever be properly social distancing. Obviously there are practical issues too.

Re The point that part time schooling won’t work because of siblings.

Then why bother having bubbles at all?

I have two kids in bubbles of 30 so they’ll mix with 60 in total.

Part time bubbles of 15 would mean they mix with 30.

Transmission would still be lowered.

Too much negative “no it can’t work” thinking doing on instead of coming up with a suitable plan.

No other indoor setting has gone back to normal why is their such cult like thinking about doing so for schools

Too much negative no it can't work thinking going on instead of coming up with a suitable plan

I bet there's not a headteacher in the country that has teaching staff, facilities and funds available to put an ADEQUATE part time effective long-term schooling into operation. And even if they did have the funds given to them those things (such as extra teachers) don't materialise over night

Of course part time school would lower the transmission no one is going to argue with that but the other issues that then raises makes it impractical

And as for no other indoor has gone back to normal is because some are working from home - children can't teach themselves. Some are furloughed- equivalent of delaying the term. Some have been made redundant- equivalent of permanently excluded a percentage of pupils telling them they no longer qualify for an education. You can't compare schools to other indoor settings as apart from being indoor there's no other comparisons they're completely different environments

@MRex

*more lean towards them being super spreaders than not* That is not true. There is some new evidence on a few more events of children catching it, but all peer reviewed research so far shows they are less likely to spread it, especially under 10s.

So that just leaves children of aa and above.

It is about time people stopped lumping all children together and realised that children of 11+ can catch and spread this virus as much as adults do.

And FYI, research has shown that under 10s can spread this virus as well.

of 11 and above

Good points for both sides of the argument but what I fear is if it gets very bad after full reopening then part timing might not even get looked at and another six months could be lost.

I appreciate the screen grab shouldn't be taken as gospel, especially as from the Daily Mail, and I hope doesn't play out but is what concerns me.

Any approach needs to be three pronged, schooling, childcare and furlough /WFH. You can't close schools but still expect parents to come into a workplace if childcare settings are not working. If you're doing some year groups but not others you need to think about teachers' kids. Any approach has to be a combined / coordinated one.

If you get covid in the school it will be shut under both circumstances.

I’m not blaming schools. I know it’s be a struggle.
I know parents will find it hard.
This is why I keep saying the government should have a clear plan with funding and support for schools and parents.
One that would work far better than ending up with schools closed again.

Schools don’t close fully, the bubble does. If a child is in a bubble of 15 instead of 30 it’s obvious there’s less chance of infection and bubbles being sent home.

@Hazelnutlatteplease

If you get covid in the school it will be shut under both circumstances.

Actually you won't.

The guidance that I last read was everyone stays in school till the tests come back and there has to be at least two positive tests before the school closes the fucked up non existent bubble.

Meaning that everyone outside of the fucked up non existent bubble stays in school till there fucked up non existent bubble catches it.