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Those living in the Manchester/Lancs/W.Yorks area of restrictions

72 replies

CathKidston89 · 01/08/2020 07:54

Does anyone know when they said they’ll review it?
I’m hoping this is only a short term thing as when I go back to work in two weeks time I will need my in laws as childcare, they’ve been our childcare since day one of me going back to work after Mat leave.

OP posts:
Frazzled2207 · 01/08/2020 12:20

@Rainmr
Yes I know isn’t it crackers. Yet I am sure they would see if the other way if it in fact covered “Cheshire”.

Flaxmeadow · 01/08/2020 12:37

People in Altrincham and parts of Stockport are arguing they are in Cheshire on local Facebook groups and ignoring the rules

Ah the old argument has reared up again Grin
This had been going on since the 1970s boundary changes and creation of Greater Manchester. "I'm from the county of Lancashire/Cheshire, NOT the county of Greater Manchester".

Time40 · 01/08/2020 12:43

New restrictions for Kirklees announced yesterday:

kirkleestogether.co.uk/2020/07/31/new-restrictions-in-kirklees-useful-information/

Orangeblossom777 · 01/08/2020 12:59

I thought youth in Altrincham were meant to be a concern? Sounds like they still are...

is Wilmslow part of it? Or is that Cheshire...

PiataMaiNei · 01/08/2020 13:00

Wilmslow isn't Greater Manchester

Orangeblossom777 · 01/08/2020 13:02

Google maps tells me

Altrincham is a historic market town in Trafford, Greater Manchester, England

Wilmslow is in Cheshire

BakedCam · 01/08/2020 13:21

Why is this so difficult to understand?

Greater Manchester:
City of Manchester
Trafford
Stockport
Oldham
Bury
Wigan
Bolton
Tameside
Rochdale
Salford
Lancashire:
Blackburn with Darwen
Burnley
Hyndburn
Pendle
Rossendale
West Yorkshire:
Bradford
Calderdale
Kirklees

The hamlets that are caught up in this, such as Keighley in West Yorkshire, is because of geographical location - same with Rossendale. It sits in the armpit of Burnley and Accrington. Burnley has low figures compared to Blackburn, but the town sits between Blackburn and Pendle.

If people on faceache can't work out where they live that's because they're shit at geography.

bizmum1 · 01/08/2020 13:22

Altrincham is in the borough of Greater Manchester but many people still argue that it's in the actual county of Cheshire.

QueenCT · 01/08/2020 13:25

Not my writing but I saw this on Facebook which gave me a laugh

Where even is Greater Manchester? Someone might need to clarify to us Greater Manchester residents that we do actually live in GM for this new lockdown. Here's why. Altrincham, Hale, and Bowdon think they're in Cheshire. They're not anymore, they're in Trafford, but are heavily in denial and often driving large Range Rovers and erecting obscene gates (that defeat the object of them living in any beautiful scenery as they can't see it) to ensure people think they're definitely Cheshire. Cheadle Hulme is also in denial. They'll tell you they moved there "for the schools". There's a whole load of "Cheshire influencers" in Altrincham and Stockport getting a reality check tonight as to what county they're in. Sale also claims to be in Cheshire but that's just whack. Trafford is home to the Lancashire Cricket Ground, even though it's now geographically closer to Cheshire and definitely not in Lancashire. Stockport changes its mind as to whether it's Cheshire or Manchester according to the situation and current trends (and in fairness, Bramhall is pretty posh, and Hazel Grove perhaps - they would say they're in Cheshire though). Marple used to be part of Glossop which is actually Derbyshire although Marple was at one point in time, Cheshire. It's now Greater Manchester with a Stockport postcode but kind of still looks a bit Derbyshire-ish and calls itself Cheshire. It's near a whole load of villages filled with people that have no idea where they are and who all look strikingly similar.

Anyway, over to Wigan, you have Standish - the semi-posh part of Wigan. The top of Standish borders Chorley which actually is genuinely Lancashire. Head across to West Lancs or is it Merseyside? Basically it all starts to sound a bit Scouse as you go towards Skelmersdale. In fact, where the hell does Skelmersdale even fall? Mind you, no one goes to Skem anyway, it's just a sign on the M58. Ah, Bolton. Another proud Lancastrian sat confused in Greater Manchester's sprawl (at least residents of Horwich have Rivington close by for outdoor exercise, which while extremely popular with doggers from across the North West - avoid twilight jogs by the way, is technically Chorley so is in proper Lancashire).

Bury, Rochdale and Oldham think they're in Lancashire still (although some parts of Rochdale and Oldham used to be in West Yorkshire and many remain confused as to where the border is - somewhere in Saddleworth apparently, could be near trendy Uppermill or maybe near where they built a motorway around some poor farmer's house, or maybe Oldham Mumps wherever that is - you may have seen it on a tram, it's a place not a disease). Many in these towns also drive Range Rovers, although they're best avoided as they tend to be career criminals (there are career criminals in Cheshire too, but they're posher and serve more affluent clientele). This particularly applies to Prestwich, a generally popular area in....well, it's close to the city centre and Salford but calls itself Bury, the cosmopolitan part. It's Greater Manchester nonetheless. You can get a closer look at this good looking crowd on a roofbar in Spinningfields like 20 Stories, they'll be taking selfies for the 'Gram near the lifts, with Beetham Tower in the background. Chorlton and Didsbury are safely in Greater Manchester and both seem content with this, even though many of their residents actually live in Rusholme and Whalley Range but ride a bike and look quirky so fit in with the West Dids crowd.

Now to my old friend Salford. Salford stands alone as a city in a city - is it even "proparrr Manc R kid?" Media City isn't in Manchester really. It's in Salford. But that's Greater Manchester apparently, even though it's a whole separate city with a separate council and pretty pink bins. You'll also find plenty of Range Rovers and huge houses in Worsley, although they don't claim to live in Cheshire, they're Salford done good. They're not really Mancunian either, they're Salfordian, although haemorrhage Manchester bees at an alarming rate. They're just focused on pretending they live in Worsley and NOT Swinton despite the M27/M28 postcode giveaway (I once lived near the border and actively engaged in those antics myself). Nearby, well not that nearby, you'll find Little Hulton, a place that is definitely in Salford but close to Bolton yet calls itself Worsley. Worsley is on the way to city status if you believe the postal addresses of most in the region. Worsley is close to Leigh which is kind of Wigan-ish and down the road from Haydock, which isn't Lancashire any more. It's Merseyside. Even though it's right down the road from Wigan, and therefore Greater Manchester. Phew. Oh, and I've absolutely no idea where Tameside even is 😂😂😂 - sounds like it's in Newcastle.

I think I'm the person to clear up the confusion.
PS no offence to Range Rovers.
PPS I've lived in many of the above areas.
PPPS I still live in "Greater Manchester"
PPPPS this is clearly a bit of fun, don't take it to heart

BakedCam · 01/08/2020 13:33

@QueenCT

Not my writing but I saw this on Facebook which gave me a laugh

Where even is Greater Manchester? Someone might need to clarify to us Greater Manchester residents that we do actually live in GM for this new lockdown. Here's why. Altrincham, Hale, and Bowdon think they're in Cheshire. They're not anymore, they're in Trafford, but are heavily in denial and often driving large Range Rovers and erecting obscene gates (that defeat the object of them living in any beautiful scenery as they can't see it) to ensure people think they're definitely Cheshire. Cheadle Hulme is also in denial. They'll tell you they moved there "for the schools". There's a whole load of "Cheshire influencers" in Altrincham and Stockport getting a reality check tonight as to what county they're in. Sale also claims to be in Cheshire but that's just whack. Trafford is home to the Lancashire Cricket Ground, even though it's now geographically closer to Cheshire and definitely not in Lancashire. Stockport changes its mind as to whether it's Cheshire or Manchester according to the situation and current trends (and in fairness, Bramhall is pretty posh, and Hazel Grove perhaps - they would say they're in Cheshire though). Marple used to be part of Glossop which is actually Derbyshire although Marple was at one point in time, Cheshire. It's now Greater Manchester with a Stockport postcode but kind of still looks a bit Derbyshire-ish and calls itself Cheshire. It's near a whole load of villages filled with people that have no idea where they are and who all look strikingly similar.

Anyway, over to Wigan, you have Standish - the semi-posh part of Wigan. The top of Standish borders Chorley which actually is genuinely Lancashire. Head across to West Lancs or is it Merseyside? Basically it all starts to sound a bit Scouse as you go towards Skelmersdale. In fact, where the hell does Skelmersdale even fall? Mind you, no one goes to Skem anyway, it's just a sign on the M58. Ah, Bolton. Another proud Lancastrian sat confused in Greater Manchester's sprawl (at least residents of Horwich have Rivington close by for outdoor exercise, which while extremely popular with doggers from across the North West - avoid twilight jogs by the way, is technically Chorley so is in proper Lancashire).

Bury, Rochdale and Oldham think they're in Lancashire still (although some parts of Rochdale and Oldham used to be in West Yorkshire and many remain confused as to where the border is - somewhere in Saddleworth apparently, could be near trendy Uppermill or maybe near where they built a motorway around some poor farmer's house, or maybe Oldham Mumps wherever that is - you may have seen it on a tram, it's a place not a disease). Many in these towns also drive Range Rovers, although they're best avoided as they tend to be career criminals (there are career criminals in Cheshire too, but they're posher and serve more affluent clientele). This particularly applies to Prestwich, a generally popular area in....well, it's close to the city centre and Salford but calls itself Bury, the cosmopolitan part. It's Greater Manchester nonetheless. You can get a closer look at this good looking crowd on a roofbar in Spinningfields like 20 Stories, they'll be taking selfies for the 'Gram near the lifts, with Beetham Tower in the background. Chorlton and Didsbury are safely in Greater Manchester and both seem content with this, even though many of their residents actually live in Rusholme and Whalley Range but ride a bike and look quirky so fit in with the West Dids crowd.

Now to my old friend Salford. Salford stands alone as a city in a city - is it even "proparrr Manc R kid?" Media City isn't in Manchester really. It's in Salford. But that's Greater Manchester apparently, even though it's a whole separate city with a separate council and pretty pink bins. You'll also find plenty of Range Rovers and huge houses in Worsley, although they don't claim to live in Cheshire, they're Salford done good. They're not really Mancunian either, they're Salfordian, although haemorrhage Manchester bees at an alarming rate. They're just focused on pretending they live in Worsley and NOT Swinton despite the M27/M28 postcode giveaway (I once lived near the border and actively engaged in those antics myself). Nearby, well not that nearby, you'll find Little Hulton, a place that is definitely in Salford but close to Bolton yet calls itself Worsley. Worsley is on the way to city status if you believe the postal addresses of most in the region. Worsley is close to Leigh which is kind of Wigan-ish and down the road from Haydock, which isn't Lancashire any more. It's Merseyside. Even though it's right down the road from Wigan, and therefore Greater Manchester. Phew. Oh, and I've absolutely no idea where Tameside even is 😂😂😂 - sounds like it's in Newcastle.

I think I'm the person to clear up the confusion.
PS no offence to Range Rovers.
PPS I've lived in many of the above areas.
PPPS I still live in "Greater Manchester"
PPPPS this is clearly a bit of fun, don't take it to heart

I like that person. Grin
Flaxmeadow · 01/08/2020 13:34

The hamlets that are caught up in this, such as Keighley in West Yorkshire, is because of geographical location

Keighley a "Hamlet" Shock

Keighley is a large, ex industrial mill, town

Lissy23 · 01/08/2020 13:52

I’m still annoyed that my area of Calderdale has been included when it doesn’t have a particularly high rate of infection.

CrimeCantCrackItself · 01/08/2020 13:53

I'm in Greater Manchester and will continue to use family childcare where absolutely necessary. There are a few days where it's unavoidable. The rules are unpoliceable and ripe for legal challenge if there's any attempt to fine for use of family childcare. Well, yours are. Ours don't appear to have even been published yet

This x100. I had no choice but to use family as childcare yesterday. My personal risk level hadn't changed since March. I have no intention of stopping my DS seeing my parents, who live round the corner. My local infection rate is the same as other areas which aren't in lockdown.

Rainmr · 01/08/2020 14:09

I live right next to Stockport and a 5-minute walk from the border but in Cheshire East. The borders don't really mean much as we are so close so we use the same supermarkets, gyms, pubs etc.

Flaxmeadow · 01/08/2020 14:09

Bury, Rochdale and Oldham think they're in Lancashire still

I know this is a quote from FB but these towns are in the county of Greater Manchester (a county created in the 1970's)

Is anyone else shocked at the amount of people who do not seem to understand geographic locations, size of towns etc anymore, or even the name of the county they themselves live in. For example people/even the media thinking Greater Manchester is a city. I don't mean on mumsnet, a fairly knowledgeable crowd, but just in general

ChristmasinJune · 01/08/2020 22:51

@starrynight19

I am in an area with very low figures but surrounded by areas with high figures so have been ‘mopped’ up with them. Very frustrating.
Is that Rossendale? My parents live in Rossendale and are so frustrated to be included when their figures are really low.
goose1964 · 01/08/2020 23:55

My DiL lives in Little Hulton and works in a hospital they've had no new cases and no deaths this week but they're in Lockdown

MayFayre · 02/08/2020 10:27

My parents live between Manchester and Rochdale, and have done for 60 years. They weren’t sure if they lived in Greater Manchester or not! Their local council is Rochdale but their postal address has changed several times over the years from Lancashire, to Greater Manchester to just Manchester.

HulaHoop31 · 02/08/2020 11:04

OP I am in same situation as you. We are in an area of GM with low case numbers but are subject to restrictions. I am due back at work in a few weeks after Mat leave and need GP for childcare. Hopefully restrictions may be eased by then but who knows! We have no choice otherwise. I can’t work from home and DP has been summoned back to the office

Bol87 · 02/08/2020 11:35

I’m in Kirklees. I live in Holmfirth. A rural village. It’s about a 30 minute drive away from the area hard hit in Kirklees. It’s bloody irritating. There’s been no cases here for weeks! 😠

I’m so angry at the way this has been handled. I rely on family for childcare while I work. We were given 3 hours notice. My employer is thankfully understanding but needs to know if I’ll be able to work as normal in the next couple weeks. I’ve got no idea. ‘We want you all back in the office’ but oh sorry, no childcare allowed! Their solution ‘holiday clubs’ .. which are running on limited capacity & full. And my one family member who looks after my children is probably safer than multiple children from different households 🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️

Flaxmeadow · 02/08/2020 11:47

My parents live between Manchester and Rochdale, and have done for 60 years. They weren’t sure if they lived in Greater Manchester or not! Their local council is Rochdale but their postal address has changed several times over the years from Lancashire, to Greater Manchester to just Manchester

Rochdale is in the county of Greater Manchester

I have relatives in Wigan and they hate being classed as "Manchester". This is the future now. Towns that once had their own identity and history will eventually be sucked into a city many miles away that they have little in common with.

Leeds is trying the same with West Yorkshire. Now sometimes called "Leeds City Region"

MrsFezziwig · 02/08/2020 11:54

Just say Dominic Cummings said it was ok...

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