Key worker childcare and new lockdown

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Can anyone tell me legally what my rights are to have my mum provide 1 day of childcare for me (NHS keyworker) in the new north west lockdown?

I used up all my annual leave in the initial lockdown - I've got patients booked in now and I need her childcare but now new north lockdown says we can't mix households? Am we exempt as she's providing keyworker childcare (she's not in a vulnerable category)

Just do it. Who is going to stop you?

Honestly, I'm worried neighbours might report us, and I want to know if the police would have a legitimate case to follow up

We are very careful. Mum and I both work for the NHS - we both wear PPE at work and never go into busy areas outside of work.

It’s not allowed and living in a neighbouring council, who doesn’t want to go into lockdown again, I would report you if I knew.

Not everyone is pathetic like @Abouttime. Apparently since Cummings the advice has always been to use common sense, so yes, if you need childcare to enable you to work then do it.

We're using grandparents and nursery. We had to xx

I would do it, you’ve said you’re being sensible, you need childcare. I’m not sure what they expect you to do otherwise.

You're being as careful as you can, if you need childcare and have no other options I think you are justified in doing this. And I say this as someone who was in the shielding group who obeyed all rules

If you had this arrangement during the original lockdown I would carry on with it now tbh

That's nice that you would report me @Abouttime
but that's not what I asked.
I asked if I would be breaking a law if my mum is providing childcare to me as a key worker. I'm not doing this for shits and giggles - I work in mental health, I'm going into work to provide a service to clients who have severe and enduring mental health problems and are actively suicidal.

I am a single parent working in healthcare doing shifts including nights and my mum continued to come to my house to provide childcare through this whole thing. We happened to both have isolated from each household for 14 days prior to the big lockdown (by accident rather than design) and my dad never went anywhere for weeks. If we lockdown again we will continue as we have done. No choice and also I'm not going to get anxious about it. I can't do my job from home, childcare doesn't cover the hours I work and it would cause a massive issue for service provision for my very mentally, emotionally and socially vulnerable patients if I suddenly dropped out of the small team. I'm also on standby for court as a witness through work (had to block a whole week out) soon too and I doubt the judge will take kindly to me having to shoot off early each day to pick up the kids from childcare!

I'm in the same boat OP. Both DH and I working full time as keyworkers already using all available annual leave to cover holidays but still not enough leave to cover 7.5 weeks unless my mum has one of my children for one day a week maximum. DS2 is at private day nursery.

Mum is under 70 and has no health issues. She's just text me to say she's still willing to have DS1 and will just be more careful with changing clothes, sanitation etc. She also works for the NHS but weekend nights so is used to PPE and hand washing!

I’m in Scotland. Partner works offshore and I work for the nhs. When he’s away I couldn’t work without my Mumma watching our kids. There’s nothing wrong with that. You need to go to work op it just so happens your related to the childcare. Less riskier your wee mum watching the little ones than them mixing with other kids at the local nursery/childminder. Don’t worry x

It’s not allowed and living in a neighbouring council, who doesn’t want to go into lockdown again, I would report you if I knew.

So what do you think she should do?

Not show for her key worker job? Leave her children unattended? Do tell.

Just do it. Hopefully your neighbours aren't petty, bitchy and getting their kicks from making other people wretched and disempowered like some posters here.

@LaurieMarlow

It’s not allowed and living in a neighbouring council, who doesn’t want to go into lockdown again, I would report you if I knew.

So what do you think she should do?

Not show for her key worker job? Leave her children unattended? Do tell.

This!

Most people are decent rather than petty and spiteful OP, and I’m sure your neighbours are amongst them. Try not to worry.

Just also want to add that 'reporting' under these circumstances will warrant zero response from anyone in 'authority'. I work with police officers every day, I have family and friends that are serving police officers. They are not interested in people keeping their lives afloat and using family for childcare. Even when police officers have been 'reported' for doing this, professional standards haven't been interested. What they do care about is illegal raves, mass brawls in the streets and people having loud disruptive parties with multiple people attending. No one is going to knock on anyone's door for having their mum over to provide childcare to a key worker. So the PP who relishes the idea of 'reporting' people trying to make the best of a bad job, crack on. You can feel all sanctimonious and no one will action your report.

@Abouttime

It’s not allowed and living in a neighbouring council, who doesn’t want to go into lockdown again, I would report you if I knew.

Ffs what is wrong with people?

OP, leave your child with your parents. You obviously have to work to continue to provide for your child, and she needs looking after so you can do so.

My mum provided childcare in the 1st lockdown. People like the poster above are just pillocks with nothing better to do with their time.

Do you count as each other’s support bubble? Because it appears that concept remains, so if you are a bubble it’s ok.

Keep doing what you're doing OP.

Thanks so much everyone. We didn't use her in 1st lockdown - I took annual leave every week to cover the hours I couldn't work. We will socially distance from her as adults, we will clean behind each other, we won't share resources - but obviously my 3year DS can't.

We can't count as a bubble because my adult sister moved in with her last year

Is the new legislation actually out yet?

Apparently since Cummings the advice has always been to use common sense, so yes, if you need childcare to enable you to work then do it.

That is exactly it. If he needed childcare, you need childcare. The end. Even if some berk reported you, nothing would happen 'to' you.

It has always been allowed per gov.uk

Ive used my parents for childcare throughout, they have my son two days a week and this continued whilst we worked.

They only advised that you didn't rely on grandparents if they were vulnerable.

I'm in kirklees and he'll be going to them as normal as I need to work.