AIBU to think this sounds ominous

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Highest excess death rate in Europe in the UK announced this morning. Now Public Health England have now paused publishing death rates while the system undergoes 'urgent review', following the Department for Health which stopped a couple of weeks ago.

846 new cases today. According to NHS England just 12 deaths in England and 2 in Wales.

Is it just me that's finding it impossible to get my head around/trust the data we're being given?

Have a look on threads and data thread - it's very informative.

Daily numbers, graphs, analysis thread 13 www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/3972437-Daily-numbers-graphs-analysis-thread-13

Sorry getting my titles completely muddled!

Not reporting the deaths today isn’t ominous, it’s accepted that they were under reporting deaths early on - when little testing and hence the higher excess deaths - but now they are probably over reporting as include people who tested positive months ago and recovered (if many of those are elderly it’s quite likely a number of them would die naturally within 3 months).

800 cases a day doesn’t result in many, if any, deaths especially if in the working age population. We probably had 100,000 cases a day in March.

Thanks...seems a bit suspect the PHE have stopped reporting as well.

I'm not big on the conspiracy stuff but given how desperate the govt is to avoid another lockdown and with school returning full time in September it makes me wonder a bit.

Well, we don't do ourselves any favours. I don't think we officially classify anyone as recovered, and anyone who dies after testing positive for COVID is recorded as a COVID death, as PP said. I agree that they need to have a good hard think about how they're recording the deaths.

Right now it’s not deaths that we should be looking at, but cases and testing, and where those cases are.

Deaths can relate to people who’ve been seriously ill with Covid for weeks or months, it doesn’t tell you what infections are like now. Back in March and April with very limited testing it was the only thing we had to go on though.

I’m glad they’ve stopped publishing nonsensical data. If they’d stopped publishing cases I’d be suspicious, but not this.

Hopefully they’ll sort the data soon, they’ve been talking about an urgent review for a week or two.

846 new cases added to the cumulative total, none of them will relate to cases confirmed today, or, beyond a few dozen at most, yesterday either. Once the Official and Staging sites are updated - very late today, unless something has changed in the last few minutes- we'll see their dates,and more importantly where they are. Typically around 20 of the 149 upper tier local authorities in England are accounting for around half the daily (England) cases.

I'm not surprised cases have gone up - lockdown has eased slightly and more people are getting tested as well.

We aren't seeing anything like the surge in cases we did back in March, and I understand hospital admissions are still dropping too.