Is everyone else really confused by Boris/government mixed messages?

[annabel85]

One day it's everyone get back to the office and pack out rush hour trains again and back to Pret and Costa for your morning coffee and lunchtime sandwich. The next it's talk of lockdown and quarantines and 'let's be careful out there'. Why not just continue to advise to work from home then where it's possible and productive to do so?

One day it's 'it'll all be over by Christmas' the next it's 'second wave will be here in two weeks'.

One day it's all get back to the shops and let's support the retail industry, the next it's compulsory masks.

We could list a whole bunch of other conflicting advice from the government and cognitive dissonance from Boris Johnson.

It's a confusing time for everyone and Boris has an impossible job in many ways but they really aren't helping matters with such confusing mixed messages.

I understand they're blindsided by events and changes (I thought they were proactive for once with the Spain quarantine tbf) but their strategy is so confused. It veers between complacency and panic on a daily basis. People don't know whether they're coming or going.

@beela

Have some cheap food, but also please also lose weight.

This is the most ridiculous mixed message out there

@somewhereovertherainbutt shops wearing of masks is because 100's can go through a shop in a day , pubs no where near , most require booking round here , tables are spread out , max of 6 and only 2 households , so it cant be compared to hundreds in and out of shops

I am in Scotland and by no means a fan of Nicola but yet through this I think she has been clear and concise

beela

--Have some cheap food, but also please also lose weight.

This is the most ridiculous mixed message out there--

Bold fail there sorry!

How they can promote the above with a straight face is beyond me!

bluewavescrashing very much sums it up.
It makes me wonder if sage give boris johnson a full briefing. He half listens, mumbles and mumbles, goes out and starts proclaiming everything will be ok bu Christmas (because he thinks if he says it it will happen). He gets back to the office and they say "fucks sake boris we said 2meters not 1 if you're want to bustle round a shop" and they have to try to work out how to back spin it all in a few days.

Although PHEs guidance has been fairly consistently vague and waffley as per usual

Yet Jacintha Ardern managed so well.

Merkel and macron have managed well when I’Ve heard them speak as well. Boris just manages to give the impression he’s not understanding the info he’s been given and has no idea what’s going on.

PHE has been uniformly dreadful throughout. It’s the complete opposite of an agile effective organisation. It would be disbanded if I had anything to do with it. It actually caused a lot of damage in the early days.

agile effective organisation. It would be disbanded if I had anything to do with it.
I'm not sure they ever have been!!
I wouldn't be surprised if they looked very different in a few years.
And as for NHSE they are nowhere to be seen! Especially with all the focus on the NHS (and not on social care)

Haven't a clue. I'm shielding and from the 1st August I can go back to work if it's covid secure but if I can work from home I should do that
I'm WFH so I can but it's preferred we are in the office. But then they can't fit me back in and keep 2m distancing, are we still meant to be doing 2m distancing at work 🤷🏽‍♀️

I'm both confused & not confused.

Not confusing: stay away from other people. Simple message. I can nearly always do this.

Confusing: whatever the rules are about meeting who where how for how long. As long as I go with The Not Confusing rule then I will probably fit in confusing rules there are today.

It always reminds me of this clip
www.comedy.co.uk/online/videos/20082/the-room-next-door-matt-hancock/

@QueenCT

Haven't a clue. I'm shielding and from the 1st August I can go back to work if it's covid secure but if I can work from home I should do that I'm WFH so I can but it's preferred we are in the office. But then they can't fit me back in and keep 2m distancing, are we still meant to be doing 2m distancing at work 🤷🏽‍♀️

I'm still WFH and this was discussed over a Skype call today.

Our office is back open but with restricted numbers due to 2 metre rule until there's a risk assessment to see if it can go down to 1 metre. Those shielding ordered to continue to work from home.

It's a one way system, some toilets closed off, not supposed to use the lifts etc.

Not really.
At first it was WFH if you can.
Now it’s WFH if you can but if not then go back to work but make sure you have PPE.

First it was don’t go out unless strictly necessary
Then a few services were open
Now, it’s go out and support the economy but protect yourself and others by wearing a mask.

First it was don’t mix with anyone
Then it was mix with a select group, outdoors where the risk is reduced
Now you can can meet up with more people but try and reduce risk where possible.

It really isn’t actually that hard with a bit of common sense.

I havent had a clue what's been going on since boris addressed the nation for a second time.
I just try to keep away from others and only go into shops I need.

At first it was WFH if you can.
Now it’s WFH if you can but if not then go back to work but make sure you have PPE.

Boris has briefed differently and on the record publicly. People working from home (more specifically employers) have been encouraged to go back to the office in recent weeks. A lot of it I think is due to how quiet central London is.

I've seen so many pictures of crowded pubs and bars late at night, I really feel we aren't enforcing some of the social distancing restrictions. We can only do so much without proper regulation and enforcement, same for quarantining on return from certain countries and self-isolating with symptoms.

It does worry me that people with symptoms appear to go immediately back to work with symptoms with a negative test. A negative test could easily be false for several reasons. I'd like us to use our capacity to ramp up random testing to look for outbreaks, seems a no-brainer to test people in meat processing plants twice a week.

Did anyone read Janet Street-Porters article in daily mail? She made some good points.

@Needcoffeecoffeecoffee

agile effective organisation. It would be disbanded if I had anything to do with it. I'm not sure they ever have been!! I wouldn't be surprised if they looked very different in a few years. And as for NHSE they are nowhere to be seen! Especially with all the focus on the NHS (and not on social care)

I think they’ll be gone in a few months, if not weeks. They’ve been abysmal.

@foxyknoxy yet nicola has said almost the same things just slighly different timings and a few differences but lots of rules same likes masks in shops not pubs ? So very similar

I did hear the suggestion that because everything has to be tightly controlled from Cummings the centre, and because anyone who is not a faithful supporter has been undermined, demoted or sacked, too much work is falling on too few shoulders.

Additionally, about half the remaining competent Civil Servants have been diverted onto repeated deadlines for a no-deal Brexit shambles, and there are simply not enough adequate people allowed to do the work the country needs.

I am not confused because I am ignoring them. Staying the fuck home until 2024 (the year of Keir)

1. Lose weight

2. Here's a voucher for £10 off a burger and chips.

Well they seem to be excelling themselves tonight.

They’ve got 20 mins to decide the terms of the new rules and regulations they’re bringing in for the new ‘local lockdown’

The new northern lockdown that affects 5 million sounded like but can't honestly be "don't see your mate at your mate's house but you can go to the pub with as many people as you like. "

And why do they so often put changes out late in the day?