The length of time people with coronavirus symptoms will have to self-isolate for is expected to be increased from seven to 10 days in England.

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53588709

To avoid a second peak the government are considering extending the time from 7 to 10 days for isolating.

Health Secretary is doing an announcement today. Not sure what time!

@Yetiyoga

Health Secretary is doing an announcement today. Not sure what time!

Thats good, I will keep an eye out for it.

From what I understand it will be 10 days for all so the 1 day isolation for people who have come into contact with the suspected case wont have to isolate 14 days

They definitely need to reduce the 14 day for asymptomatic contacts. It’s idealistic, but in reality it’s too long for people to go without an income, so compliance is likely quite low.

Ah that's good that they may reduce the 14 days for others. If anyone hears what time the announcement will be , please post on here :)

What are they doing about money for people who can't work when isolated? SSP is next to nothing, businesses won't want to pay people to sit at home, self employed people don't want to lose work/their business. People won't be compliant with requests to isolate (and will give out false info to pubs etc) and will risk fines if it's a choice between a potential fine and definitely not paying their rent that month.

If they cant afford 10d without work (knowing that is a real possiblity at the moment) then really they cant afford that pub trip/meal.
As aside from isolating many people arent well enough to work for those days anyway. (On the long covid fb page there are peopls unable to go back to work for months).
But agree people's work need to pay them and igmore it from sickness record etc as people with kids could be isolating a lot waiting for tests.

if people give false details we will likely end up with more lockdowns possibly with noone getting paid.

@Keepdistance people may have to isolate for many reasons, not just going to the pub. Besides, you could go to the pub and pay £1 for a drink (non alcoholic) which is a hell of a lot less than 10 days off work. The point is, it isn't black and white. People house share and may need to isolate due to people in their house contracting the virus through socialising/ work/ supermarket.

There is going to be a new two tier society.

Think there already is.

Folk who can WFH, no loss of job or income v those losing much.

People for whom lockdown is a minor inconvenience and others whose health, life chances, housing are stunted.

It's no one's fault but there will be a lot of blame to go round!

Exactly @Yetiyoga. People could be contacted for loads of reasons, including others in their household getting it. In fact if you can't WFH you're more likely to be contacted, and then you can't work...

About time. It should always have been at least 10 days. The decision to make it 7 days is detailed in the SAGE minutes from 10 March:

14. SAGE endorsed NERVTAG's advice that individual case isolation should last for 7 days from onset of symptoms.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/sage-minutes-coronavirus-covid-19-response-10-march-2020

But that is not what NERVTAG advised. This is from their minutes on 6 March:

3.25 NERVTAG’s recommendation for the length of time in self-isolation should be between 7 and 14 days and this could come down as transmission reduces. In the current situation NERVTAG would prefer this period to be towards the longer end of the range. The caveat accompanying this recommendation is that those in immunocompromised groups and those on steroids (including those with lung disease) to be considered for longer periods of self-isolation due to the reports of increased shedding and vulnerability. NERVTAG would revisit this when more data is available.

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As usual we're late to the party. We have this helpful situation where we can monitor what other countries do and as usual Boris does his own thing then backtracks.

It has been published on the government website. All 4 nations CMOs are backing it.

10 days for symptomatic cases.

14 days (this is still the same and hasn't changed) for asymptomatic/in contact with people with symptoms or positive cases.

link to CMO statement

@frozendaisy There is already a lot of resentment building on housing estates
People who havent been abroad for years/decades/ never been abroad at all being told they have to make and wear a mask out of a sock or T shirt.

Being told to self isolate when they are on zero hours.
Struggling to look after kids while juggling a zero hours job
Facing the real possibility of not being able to pay their rent.

@SugarHour

What are they doing about money for people who can't work when isolated? SSP is next to nothing, businesses won't want to pay people to sit at home, self employed people don't want to lose work/their business. People won't be compliant with requests to isolate (and will give out false info to pubs etc) and will risk fines if it's a choice between a potential fine and definitely not paying their rent that month.

I reckon a lot of people living hand to mouth will not stop working until their symptoms are obvious