Over 100 local lockdowns a week.

[MonkeyToesOfDoom]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53386205

Even with the warmer weather it seems Covid is still spreading through the population.

There was never any real evidence that spread was less in warmer weather.

Yes it is, but the good news is that we have more tools at our disposal to contain it, rather than having to lockdown the entire country. It will probably be with us for a while, this is a much better option than the others in my opinion.

@MonkeyToesOfDoom

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53386205

Even with the warmer weather it seems Covid is still spreading through the population.

I saw that headline - did it get anymore specific on the number and whether it’s a growing number? The Maths teacher in me has been wanting to as Matt to give an upper bound or the statement is pretty meaningless. 101? Or 1001? Why the woolly comments with numbers??

"The Maths teacher in me has been wanting to as Matt to give an upper bound or the statement is pretty meaningless. 101? Or 1001? Why the woolly comments with numbers??"
I agree - we could do with proper figures. Judging by other numbers (e.g. daily tests) I reckon 101 or 102.

Not sure what a local lockdown means anyway, what with 4 farm workers with Covid-19 having done a runner from A S Green.

I'm finding it hard to believe much they say these days.

Last week, 55 of those outbreaks were in schools.

I find ‘swiftly and silently’ quite alarming. Why ‘silently’? It sounds secretive.

@Nicedayforawedding

I find ‘swiftly and silently’ quite alarming. Why ‘silently’? It sounds secretive.

I thought that too, like they don't want the full extent to be known. This government is not trustworthy at all.

isn't the threshold for an "oubreak" incredibly low? - 2 or more confirmed cases in the same location (eg a specific school, care home, place of work)? If anything I was surprised by how low the number was given in England we're probably still at c.3,500 cases a week - a figure that has been coming down quite dramatically each week but is now starting to slow.

I thought that too, like they don't want the full extent to be known.

It's been clear from the start how serious this is. As I've said before on mn, at the very first daily briefings the gov told us that it might last a long time and that there might be rolling lockdowns lasting months, maybe 18 months or more

This government is not trustworthy at all.

It isn't that they're are untrustworthy, it's that people don't listen to what they say. I think most western governments have handled this in similar ways but this virus is new to them as well and their scientific advisors. They are all still learning about it too

@Nicedayforawedding

I find ‘swiftly and silently’ quite alarming. Why ‘silently’? It sounds secretive.

Probably because the public doesn't need to know every detail, and it's not that interesting anyway if a couple of people test positive here and there. Big cases are covered in the press.

It would be extremely unfair on residents to announce Residential Road in Littlevillage was on lock down considering the stigma it would generate in the local area.

It's not "local lockdowns."

He is referring to the numbers in the PHE Surveillance report out each week, where they lay out the number of incidents incidents each week - an incident being "2 or more suspected cases" of CV in one setting.

In Week 27, there were 177 such incidents, in which 118 had one or more case confirmed positive. In the great majority of these cases, the action taken will have been to close the setting if appropriate - a workplace, a school - or increase testing and isolation (care homes). I don't think swiftly and silently refers to anything being a huge secret, it's just not relevant to make a big announcement in the great majority of cases.

@ohthegoats

Last week, 55 of those outbreaks were in schools.

Yes, although there were only confirmed tested cases found in 27 of those incidents.

An outbreak is 2 or more suspected cases. The setting is then closed while they test to make sure. This doesnt mean that there will be 100 cities like Leicester locked down, more like a couple of factories and schools closed for a week or 2.

I don't understand that bit, what defines the other "incidents" which didn't have two or more suspected cases??

I don't understand that bit, what defines the other "incidents" which didn't have two or more suspected cases??

@JulyBreeze

I don't understand that bit, what defines the other "incidents" which didn't have two or more suspected cases??

177 incidents = 177 areas where there were 2 or more suspected cases.

Of those, 118 one or more cases tested positive.
so 59 didn't have any cases test positive.