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BAME question regarding covid19

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BBCONEANDTWO · 08/07/2020 19:42

I saw a report that gave a breakdown percentage wise of which ethnic groups have more chance of catching and dying from covid.

I believe it was black Afro Caribbean and then Bangladeshi who had the higher percentage chance. But I couldn't see anything for Chinese and if they had a higher percentage. I can't find the report and have searched everywhere. Can anyone point me in the right direction please?

Thanks.

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PatriciaHolm · 08/07/2020 20:08

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/892085/disparities_review.pdf

This is the summary. HOWEVER it is important to note that the study could not adjust for the affects of occupation, co-morbidity or obesity. And we know, for example, that occupation makes a significant difference and some occupations have a higher % of BAME employees.

"The highest age standardised diagnosis rates of COVID-19 per 100,000 population were in people of Black ethnic groups (486 in females and 649 in males) and the lowest were in people of White ethnic groups (220 in females and 224 in males).

An analysis of survival among confirmed COVID-19 cases shows that, after accounting for the effect of sex, age, deprivation and region, people of Bangladeshi ethnicity had around twice the risk of death when compared to people of White British ethnicity. People of Chinese, Indian, Pakistani, Other Asian, Caribbean and Other Black ethnicity had between 10 and 50% higher risk of death when compared to White British.

Death rates from COVID-19 were higher for Black and Asian ethnic groups when compared to White ethnic groups. This is the opposite of what is seen in previous years, when the all cause mortality rates were lower in Asian and Black ethnic groups. Therefore, the inequality in COVID-19 mortality between ethnic groups is the opposite of that seen for all causes of death in previous years. "

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BBCONEANDTWO · 08/07/2020 20:13

Thank you for that - yes regarding not being to adjust for occupation etc.

The report I saw broke it down further than that and said that Black Afro Caribbean had a higher percentage of chance of catching followed by either Bangladeshi or 'South Asian' (which I assume takes in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Chinese/Japanese/Taiwan/Vietnam etc would come under 'East Asia'?)

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ShootsFruitsAndLeaves · 08/07/2020 20:50

there are different separate issues:

  • chance of catching covid, which won't be affected at all by race, but for example, a large % of Bangladeshi men are taxi drivers, which is a high risk profession, while the highest death rate is from Jews, which might be due to social or religious practices. So while two people with identical lives but different race have the same risk, the average Bangladeshi person lives in a different town, does a different job, has different religious practice, family life, etc., than the average white British person.
  • the chance of dying once infected. This is hard to separate from other factors because not only do Bangladeshi people do different jobs, they also have different diets, and people in lower paid jobs tend to have worse diets, be more obese, more likely to smoke, etc. than richer people. So a morbidly obese Bangladeshi woman is going to have a similar or identical risk of death to a morbidly obese white British woman. But some ethnic minority populations have a higher occurrence of diabetes, morbid obesity, etc. than others.

In general if you consider 'a white male teacher aged 40', and 'a black male teacher aged 40', in the same school, they are going to have a similar risk of catching covid & then dying from it if infected. By controlling some of the parameters (location and profession) we have elimianted a large part of the ethnic disparity.

BBCONEANDTWO · 08/07/2020 21:19

Thank you. I get what you're saying BUT I'm sure that there was some difference between the BAME community as regards who was most susceptible. Appreciate the information.

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ShootsFruitsAndLeaves · 08/07/2020 22:49

there are differences between BAME groups in terms of death rates, but it's difficult to isolate from that the higher risk of being infected, and from the different rates of co-morbid conditions

PatriciaHolm · 08/07/2020 23:22

www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/articles/coronavirusrelateddeathsbyethnicgroupenglandandwales/latest

I think this might have been what you saw? It shows no increase for those of Chinese heritage.

BBCONEANDTWO · 09/07/2020 06:54

MANY THANKS - that's what I was looking for.

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lljkk · 13/07/2020 11:55

Increased risk of death for males but almost veering into decreased risk for females. Age & demographic adjusted.

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